Guys what do you all think about from Humankind to Endless space 2, then? I only have endless Space and I think it's my favorite 4xx by now. It's a blast! :D

I love it so much! *-* ♥

Do you guys think Endless Space 2 was better than Humankind, in general, or are you guys simply making "force" to "like" a new game from amplitude, after all? xD ♥ 

Because... You know... 

It doesn't seems like it's much balanced either...

And a game with core indentity and funcituional mechanics broken and riddling themselves, plus a big of a mega balance issue in the game like... Sorry? Isn't that way a little bit too much?

Just asking...

In my views, endless space 2 was nothing like that. Really. 

I hate history I love space. we are the polar opposites, lol

I do think ES2 is way better than humankind btw...

Dale_K wrote:

Velorace wrote:

Do you guys think Endless Space 2 was better than Humankind, in general, or are you guys simply making "force" to "like" a new game from amplitude, after all? xD ♥ 

Because... You know... 

It doesn't seems like it's much balanced either...

And a game with core indentity and funcituional mechanics broken and riddling themselves, plus a big of a mega balance issue in the game like... Sorry? Isn't that way a little bit too much?

Just asking...

In my views, endless space 2 was nothing like that. Really. 

I haven't played any other Amplitude game. Humankind is my first from them.

I MUCH prefer historical based games than fantasy/space based games.

EDIT: Sorry, not entirely true. I just check steam and I have EL1 and ES1. But both games less than 10 hours each. Both last played 8 years ago.

I recommend you trying ES2 tho. It's amazing. 

Very, very good gameplay, balancing and different patching for Major Factions. I believe ES2 is considerably a very big major improvement than Humankind, really. Having ES2 and looking how Humankind looks for me is a big no go lol xD

ES2 seems much better... In my perspective...

Both in balancing, in major factions... And much the rest, really. 

Anyway... 

Velorace wrote:

Dale_K wrote:

Velorace wrote:

Do you guys think Endless Space 2 was better than Humankind, in general, or are you guys simply making "force" to "like" a new game from amplitude, after all? xD ♥ 

Because... You know... 

It doesn't seems like it's much balanced either...

And a game with core indentity and funcituional mechanics broken and riddling themselves, plus a big of a mega balance issue in the game like... Sorry? Isn't that way a little bit too much?

Just asking...

In my views, endless space 2 was nothing like that. Really. 

I haven't played any other Amplitude game. Humankind is my first from them.

I MUCH prefer historical based games than fantasy/space based games.

EDIT: Sorry, not entirely true. I just check steam and I have EL1 and ES1. But both games less than 10 hours each. Both last played 8 years ago.

I recommend you trying ES2 tho. It's amazing. 

Very, very good gameplay, balancing and different patching for Major Factions. I believe ES2 is considerably a very big major improvement than Humankind, really. Having ES2 and looking how Humankind looks for me is a big no go lol xD

ES2 seems much better... In my perspective...

Both in balancing, in major factions... And much the rest, really. 

Anyway... 

I'm completely tied up with Old World. Fantastic game! Much better than Humankind and Civ6.

I highly recommend Endless Space 2 if you enjoyed the first one. ES2 and Endless Legend are the current pinnacle of Amplitude game design in my opinion. 

DragonGaming wrote:

[...]now add in all the updates and patches since ES2's launch along with the dlc except awakening into ES2[...]

Bolded for emphasis. I cannot +1 this enough. ES2 is a masterpiece, but if you play with awakening it will ruin your first impressions.

Velorace wrote:

I was wondering what's going on with Humankind. I saw that the negative steam score (reception) of the game is pretty mixed, there are people who love, and "hate" human-kind, some say it is pretty unbalanced and has lots of glaring gameplay issues... So, I was just asking here, what's really going on with the game? What is it's perception, and the peoples perception of the game? Is it good, is it bad...? Why the people are giving it negative mixed steam reviews? Why some people are skeptical about Humankind (i've seen someone- A Vodianny, commenting he is 'skeptical' about the game) and why there are so many negative, mixed reviews about humankind? There is even one negative steam review i've seen like "Tl:dr, Do not buy. Half baked" And then he points out to the fact there are some "cool" features and ideas for the game (humankind) but he did point out that the devs didn't point out to the fact they didn't and or haven't thought about some of the glaring issues that may arise by implementing some of it's core-feature mechanics. I looked on that review and said "Hell, that's a nice review. It's not really a gameplay-wise mechanic review of the game, which is important, but it quite reminds me that this is an important aspect of the game that did, or do, have to be thought out more true. There are a lot of thing's in game that i've seen that haven't been really thought out.) But the problem was, these "features" or "glaring issues" that haven't been thought out, When I saw them for my first eye of glance, I was really worried, albeit, shocked. These glaring issues this man was pointing where not simple, ordinary things like "Oh, you do this and X will happen" It's more like "Guys, if you do this, and you implement X game mechanic, it will prolly come in conflict with Y game mechanic and you guys in order to fix this issue need to basically cut off either one or other game MECHANIC since there is absolutely NO FIX for neither X or Y. For example, how can you prevent a BOT from acting faster than a player in SIMULTANEOUS TURNS if you can't prevent him from **NOT READING** through all the screen crap players have to read?

Anyway... It's a really difficult thing and topic.

I was reading thorugh all these things, and I was just nodging my head and thinking, "Well, this is no easy fix." "This too." "This too". "Omg... Is the game doomed?" Then the guy written up up to 7000 characters long text and about 7-8 glaring issues the devs didn't thought about and I was like "Yup, Yup yup... Quite sure... Lol" anyway... :(

I don't have humankind so that's why I am asking, lol.

I haven't bought it as a preoder because I was like meeeeh I'm to lazy to buy things RN but then when the reviews came it went mixed some guys/most guys said it was 'half-baked' I was like, wut? Wutf? What's going on?

Then I came here in these steam/g2g forums to ask you guys about it, lol, lawl xD

So what's going on with humankind? =) What are your thoughts?

The reason is that humankind just like French cars: they are so amazing and strange (or better to say unique), and mostly are done especially for comfort of driver, BUT usual driver prefer german or american car just because they don’t understand how cool French cars are... And so with humankind, I have just played yesterday without dlc and today with dlc and the game is so amazing, that i have spent 10 hours already. Most of bad reviews are “naah its clone of civ/it is not civ/uugh bugs” abd so on, these are haters of unique gameplay that humankind provides. So the best way to understand will you love this amazing experience or drop because “oh no it is not civ” to try demo;)

EsoulBoy wrote:
The reason is that humankind just like French cars: they are so amazing and strange (or better to say unique), and mostly are done especially for comfort of driver, BUT usual driver prefer german or american car just because they don’t understand how cool French cars are... And so with humankind, I have just played yesterday without dlc and today with dlc and the game is so amazing, that i have spent 10 hours already. Most of bad reviews are “naah its clone of civ/it is not civ/uugh bugs” abd so on, these are haters of unique gameplay that humankind provides. So the best way to understand will you love this amazing experience or drop because “oh no it is not civ” to try demo;)

The problem with French cars (to use your analogy)..... like Humankind..... is threefold.

1. Reliability. French cars have a very bad history of reliability. Complete break downs and software errors, components that are amazing ideas by themselves not working properly in the car as a whole since they went untested in conjunction with other components of the car, and poor after sales support. Like Humankind.

2. Flashy marketing. French advertising, for want of a target here, come up with some of the flashiest marketing in the world. From perfumes, to French designer clothes, fine champagne, and yes their cars. Their marketing budgets are enormous and delight the audience, but in the end hold no relation with the car's reality being sold. Like Humankind.

3. One way communication with customers. For some reason, it comes across that French car manufacturers prefer to tell customers what they want, that they are wrong when customers tell them what they want, and that the French designers are the best in the World and know best. Like Humankind.