HUMANKIND World Premiere

Its interesting very very yes 

Very bold move guys.

The challenge now is to inject enough creativity and fantasy into all of this.

Otherwise it could look like a Civ-Like, which would be sad for a studio as creative as Amplitude.

I clearly recognize Endless Legend features. That's fine.  :)

Insta-subscribe, insta-buy.

For the negative kids: Assuming the game will be bad before you even try it or has seen it's finished state, is pretentious and disingenious. It doesn't serve to give feedback and fair opinion to the Devs, which doesn't help them at all. I'd advise you to either give it a try or watch someone play it once it's finished and released. Before you start judging it without solid information.

To the track of this game, Humankind.

From the looks of it. It seems they are attempting to take the idea of "Civilization" and significantly improving the core concept of the idea what it means to create your very own Civilization, People and History. While keeping the Civ Management intact and 4x, but making sure it is strategical and heavily focused on the idea of "Playing a Civ Game exactly how you want it" without sacrificing basic concepts and gameplay mechanics. Additionally, i hope they keep the core mechanics and concepts of EL, as they are fundamentally useful to Humankind, but also not making them too alike.

Their idea seems to be recreating the enjoyment of what it was to play Civilization, before it got vastly greedy, unbalanced and not so enjoyable anymore. They mention this is something they have long wanted to make. And that, makes me very curious. Cause that means their every attempt is to make this game the best of the best, among their releases. While it MAY NOT be a Endless serie. Forget that and allow them to innovate and step outside their safety box, so that they can try something new (altough perhaps not entirely new) and find inspiration. Think of Developers like Digital Artists, except you can get immersed and play around in their Arts. May not be entirely accurate. But somewhat.

Regarding to ideas or improvements of current/previous releases, which may or may not affect Humankind:

Advanced Diplomacy System
Battle System similar to EL (significantly more tactical)
Resources aside of regular 4x being key
Units should be customizeable and represent your Civ Design (If you play Samurai Rome, look like that imagination)
Multiplayer System should be advanced, allow for hot-seat and ironbulwark for no desynchs on Client-side/server side
A large plethora of options and methods of making/designing your own Units and Civs (no 10 options and future DLC increases it by 10-20 options)
Map World should be random within the Users fiddling of Map World Creation Options (rivers 40% increase to 80% example)
Win Conditions should have classic Turn-Based Conditions (Conquer, Domination, Unify, Tech and Score example) and maybe more
Tech Tree should take some time and is affected by Game Options before Map Launch how long it takes
Map should have many luxuries, landmarks and etc like previous EL but more and not so Real-World applicable (Alien Ship Crashshite example)
There should be Neutral Tribes/Civs and Hostile ones roaming and messing with you and others and evolves just as you and others do

About now i'm empty of ideas for the time being, i might have more in an actual feedback page of this. This was all a blarf of me out of concern for it. I'm very curious and look forward to further details about the game. Ciao!

Amazing!

I am sure I'll be playing it. 

icarus86 wrote:

Though I'm pretty sure that my opinion is unpopular, I very much like the combat mechanics in Endless Legend. Is this going to be similar here?

One of the things I don't like in Civ is the micro-management of all units across the world map. Having them group up in armies is a huge QoL improvement.

Several people have also said they'd like to see improved diplomacy mechanics. Knowing that EL had it's quirks in this respect, can we hope to see a vastly improved system?

I couldn't agree more. I liked how the combat system offered some level of tactical control, but generally resolved much faster than a full-on tactical system would. It didn't break too much from the strategic layer and that for me is its objective.

I felt like, after the various add-ons and the CP, diplomacy was maybe the one remaining weak spot in the game. It wasn't bad, just not as fleshed out as some other stuff.

So, yeah, I am very much looking forward to learning more about ... everything. If Amplitude does this even remotely right, count me in. Best of success with this @devteam!

looks awesome! we are ready and willing to test ?

If this game is civ but better, I'll be so psyched. Civ just isn't that exciting for me anymore.

very exited by the looks of it, but historical stuff is not very appealing to me plus there are already a bunch of those games in existece. 

one of the best parts about the endless games was the original endless universe.

but if you guys give me the opportunity to create a abradolf lincler kind of civilization i will buy it :D

Very well, but... WE NEED THIS IN PORTUGUESE BRAZIL LANGUAGE!!!!!

PLEASE!!!!

Even if I'm still hoping for an Endless Legend 2 someday or any form of fantasy (pseudo fantasy and sci-fi) from Amplitude and I've never felt much appeal for historical games (why my interest for Civ quickly fell despite how good it can be), but I'm definitely gonna give this a try! If it's like an upgraded EL gameplay wise then I'm sure to have fun with it, and if this can be a stepping-stone for how a EL2 could be then it'll make me more excited playing it.

Given how much it seems like Civ, being able to be compared and competed against it more than EL could, perhaps this might be the game that'll actually get Amplitude greatly recognized and have the guys at Civ starting to shiver in their boots. Kinda like the Cities Skylines vs Simcity and Skylines winning a lot of Simcity's audience on the idea of trying out new ideas and innovating things, adding features and changing things that was sorely needed, instead of being stagnant due to no true competitors giving other alternatives for their audience. Competition can be important for a genre to evolve afterall, which is kinda lacking for 4X games.

Is it too late the change the title of the game to Endless Humans?

A game like this, with a focus on evolving civilizations, could give more focus to some of the historically important, but rarely seen in CIV, cultures. the Kushan, The Khazars, the Olmec, the Gokturks, etc. I really hope to see that in both the main and the expansions! 

It may be a bit late to say this, but I really like the look of "Humankind" and the idea of playing a culture instead of a nation and the possibillity to change (or develop) to an other one.

Its also very good to make your own history, but how could "historical events, figures, scientific breakthroughs" etc. fit in this setting? Will e.g. Newton be English when no English culture is present (in the game I'm playing) or will his "laws of motion" (given to be present in the game) be made by an other scientist of a different name (like Meyer, Moore, Wang, Ivanow etc.)? Or will I have MY own "historical events....." made by people of my culture (and same with the cultures present in the game I'm playing)? Questions questions.......

But nevertheless I am fascinated of "Humankind" and the ideas behind it. I'll keep an eye on it because it's just what I was waiting for!!!

icarus86 wrote:

Though I'm pretty sure that my opinion is unpopular, I very much like the combat mechanics in Endless Legend. Is this going to be similar here?

One of the things I don't like in Civ is the micro-management of all units across the world map. Having them group up in armies is a huge QoL improvement.

Several people have also said they'd like to see improved diplomacy mechanics. Knowing that EL had it's quirks in this respect, can we hope to see a vastly improved system?

AFAIK this is confirmed in the Polygon article. Armies move around as one stack and unstack upon entering the battle. Battles will still be fought on the actual cvampaign map. So yes, the EL system is still in place. I read that they will refine it and give us more control of the battles.

cant wait to play this game 

Can´t wait to see more. ^^

aerothgow wrote:

i will not purchase any content from you again. you put out es2 broken then fixed it a bit then busted it with the last 2 dlcs and left it busted.

i just don't trust you. this is not how you do business.

I just tried new game  in ES2 after many weeks OFF and I'm surpised too ! It is broken no ?! I start 2 easy  small challenge with 5 AI and AI winn by score at the only 50th round !  May I choose Hard difficulty to have a chance ?