voxxyn wrote:
With a large map and/or multiple AI players there just wont be enough memory to go around on a 32bit OS. While further optimization on the devs part might help this problem, very simply the game is meant to be run on 64bit OS. you =can= run it on a 32bit... but expecting full performance from the game when you're giving it 1/2 the recommended resources just isn't reasonable.

And none fo that 32 bit nonsense can be true. My friend just started getting that OutOfMemory error, though he has played the game on the same machine before. Albeit it has been many months, but the machine was Windows 10 32 bit then, and is Windows 10 32 bit now. 8 Gbyte RAM is enough.

However, there appears to be some issue in the startup, which has not yet been resolved. We noticed in Settings that his machine reports the 8Gb RAM but only 3.5 Gb available after a fresh boot.

Though still probably reaching a threshold which is being discussed in here, it is NOT a 32 bit issue, but something else eating up RAM during the boot process.

Sadly, my friend doesn't work well over the phone so he gave up before we got to the bottom of the issue, but I am inclined to think we have a Java issue. Found some sort of updater sitting there in startup, and I never liked Java other than getting it direct from the manufacturer. We are going to try to peal that out and see if the RAM frees up after boot.

I hope this helps steer others away from the 32 bit and move towards a possible startup app taking up too much RAM (quite possibly malicious software is what I suspect when I see java trash hanging around).

Phloyd113 wrote:

And none fo that 32 bit nonsense can be true. My friend just started getting that OutOfMemory error, though he has played the game on the same machine before. Albeit it has been many months, but the machine was Windows 10 32 bit then, and is Windows 10 32 bit now. 8 Gbyte RAM is enough.

However, there appears to be some issue in the startup, which has not yet been resolved. We noticed in Settings that his machine reports the 8Gb RAM but only 3.5 Gb available after a fresh boot.

Though still probably reaching a threshold which is being discussed in here, it is NOT a 32 bit issue, but something else eating up RAM during the boot process.

Sadly, my friend doesn't work well over the phone so he gave up before we got to the bottom of the issue, but I am inclined to think we have a Java issue. Found some sort of updater sitting there in startup, and I never liked Java other than getting it direct from the manufacturer. We are going to try to peal that out and see if the RAM frees up after boot.

I hope this helps steer others away from the 32 bit and move towards a possible startup app taking up too much RAM (quite possibly malicious software is what I suspect when I see java trash hanging around).

A 32-bit operating system can only handle 4 GB of user addressable memory (that is, the limit of total memory for both your GPU and RAM). I don't know what kind of setup your friend has, but the unaccounted for half GB is very possibly simply the GPU "saving its spot" (a more detailed explanation here).

I have no idea why a manufacturer would knowingly sell a computer with twice as much RAM as it can handle properly, but I urge you to steer clear from 32 bits operating systems. Endless Legend is fairly memory-intensive, and every expansion just added more stuff running under the hood, which increased the game's demand in memory. A computer limited by its OS will be in a difficult spot when it comes to running the game properly.

This can be somewhat attenuated by playing on smaller maps, with fewer opponents, and in Fast speed to make games end sooner, considering that the more elements are on the map, the greedier the simulation becomes.

Hope this helps.

Better source­ on maximum amount of RAM handled by Win 10 32 bits: [here]

Phloyd113 wrote:

And none fo that 32 bit nonsense can be true. My friend just started getting that OutOfMemory error, though he has played the game on the same machine before. Albeit it has been many months, but the machine was Windows 10 32 bit then, and is Windows 10 32 bit now. 8 Gbyte RAM is enough.

However, there appears to be some issue in the startup, which has not yet been resolved. We noticed in Settings that his machine reports the 8Gb RAM but only 3.5 Gb available after a fresh boot.

Though still probably reaching a threshold which is being discussed in here, it is NOT a 32 bit issue, but something else eating up RAM during the boot process.

Sadly, my friend doesn't work well over the phone so he gave up before we got to the bottom of the issue, but I am inclined to think we have a Java issue. Found some sort of updater sitting there in startup, and I never liked Java other than getting it direct from the manufacturer. We are going to try to peal that out and see if the RAM frees up after boot.

I hope this helps steer others away from the 32 bit and move towards a possible startup app taking up too much RAM (quite possibly malicious software is what I suspect when I see java trash hanging around).

Please do yourself / your friend a favor and try switching to a 64-bit version of Windows (7 / 8.1 / 10).

It's normal that with a 32-bit OS, only 3.5 GB of RAM are addressable.