Eslek Tarosh doesn't appear anymore even w/ Endless Day achievement

Keilun

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9 years ago

Jan 24, 2016, 7:18:36 PM

We do get Samhane though (which I believe is also achievement related), so it seems like this is possibly a bug specific to the Endless Day achievement & Eslek when playing with mods. It's easy enough to test during the Endless Day event.

Keilun

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Keilun

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9 years ago

Jan 27, 2016, 3:04:29 PM

Awesome! Thanks for your blessing!

DEVFrogsquadron

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DEVFrogsquadron

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9 years ago

Jan 27, 2016, 10:36:49 AM

Given the fact that having mods prevents you from having it, nobody here minds that you add him to the market.

Keilun

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Keilun

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9 years ago

Jan 26, 2016, 7:42:55 PM

Pikou wrote:
Hi,

I just wanted to confirm that Eslek Tarosh is linked through the code to an achievement and therefore cannot be correctly obtained when playing with a mod.

This is not a bug then, just an incompatible feature with the use of mods.

Thanks for confirming Pikou. Given that limitation, would it be considered poor taste if we were to create a mod that adds him to the market?

DEVPikou

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DEVPikou

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9 years ago

Jan 26, 2016, 4:45:48 PM

Hi,

I just wanted to confirm that Eslek Tarosh is linked through the code to an achievement and therefore cannot be correctly obtained when playing with a mod.

This is not a bug then, just an incompatible feature with the use of mods.

DEVFrogsquadron

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DEVFrogsquadron

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9 years ago

Jan 26, 2016, 2:47:26 PM

I'm not sure if we have the means to treat achievements in general differently from this achievement in particular. If we don't, it means it's unlikely to be fixable.

Regardless, I've moved the thread and pass this on to the team.

Keilun

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Keilun

Chameleon

9 years ago

Jan 25, 2016, 4:37:45 PM

I agree, I feel this is something that Amplitude should handle if our educated guesses are correct.

Amp, could you move this thread to the Gameplay issues area so it can be reviewed as a potential bug?

lilyophelia

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lilyophelia

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9 years ago

Jan 25, 2016, 2:32:11 PM

It would be super easy to make a mod to enable Eslek, but I feel like that would be in bad taste. It's kind of their thing, you know, to help celebrate Endless Day.

I'll add a bunch of new flying/cavalry heroes to my own mod in the future, though!

HappyHead

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OOOH, now ain't that a clever idea.

HappyHead

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9 years ago

Jan 24, 2016, 9:33:01 PM

QUICK!

Someone make a mod that adds Eslek to modded games!

Keilun

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Keilun

Chameleon

9 years ago

Dec 6, 2015, 10:02:38 PM

Hey everyone,

I nearly forgot about this guy, but I do have the Endless Day achievement unlocked on Jan 24 @1:24am. I was under the impression that with that achievement I would have Eslek Tarosh permanently unlocked for future games, but I have never seen him since the Endless Day event.

Am I correct in understanding that he should be appearing in all my games now? Or was he only a limited duration appearance?

If he's just rare, then I'm pretty darn unlucky since I haven't seen him in all my games since January...

Thanks!

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9 years ago

Jan 24, 2016, 8:24:47 AM

lilyophelia wrote:
I know that having any mods enables disables the Steam Achievements, so it might be that when you are playing with a mod activated, you'll never see that hero; or that you'll always see them while Endless day is active.

+1 I think it.s exactly due to the mod.

lilyophelia

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lilyophelia

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9 years ago

Jan 24, 2016, 3:16:21 AM

I know that having any mods enables disables the Steam Achievements, so it might be that when you are playing with a mod activated, you'll never see that hero; or that you'll always see them while Endless day is active.

Keilun

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Keilun

Chameleon

9 years ago

Jan 24, 2016, 1:11:21 AM

I have some more info on this which seems to indicate a bug possibly.

Since I have the achievement already, when I start a regular unmodded game, I do not get the quest 'Day of the Awakening'. This is expected.

However, I've been exclusively playing modded games (the only mod that is loaded is: "More Faction Trait Points (105)" which only updates the trait point totals for each race). Since the Endless Day event started, we've been receiving the 'Day of the Awakening' quest at the start of each of our modded games, despite already having the achievement. Even if we complete the quest and beat the game in our modded game, we'll get the quest again at the start of the next modded game.

I may be reaching here, but it seems that the fact that we are receiving the quest indicates that the game thinks that our modded game has not yet unlocked the hero which would explain why the past 100+ hours of modded games never had this hero in the market.

Derbyherb

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Derbyherb

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9 years ago

Jan 23, 2016, 11:20:28 PM

Just your luck unfortunately. I've seen him in 3 games since the 21st. The AI empires like to purchase him.

lilyophelia

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lilyophelia

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14 000g2g pts

9 years ago

Jan 23, 2016, 1:50:33 PM

I see them in the .xml files, and they're tagged correctly. As far as I can see, every hero has an equal chance to land on the market, but obviously that's not what happens in reality. Not sure here ; ;

Keilun

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Keilun

Chameleon

9 years ago

Jan 23, 2016, 8:35:22 AM

So it's been over 100+ hours of games since I last posted and neither me or my partner have seen him in the merc market (and to my knowledge the 100+ hours between last year's Endless Day and my post). Meanwhile we've seen the Samhane Haligtide hero (quest) at least 4-5 times. Is he intended to be this rare?

It'd be nice if both Samhane and Eslek had the same rarity as Researcher Namkang so we can actually play with the heroes we unlock rather than pray to the RNG gods each game.

natev

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natev

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9 years ago

Dec 7, 2015, 12:19:07 AM

He's just rare. I've seen him recently under the current patch.

Note that he stops being available from a quest after the first game-- after that, he's found in the mercenary market only.

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