No "salt the city" option when capturing an enemy city? - Endless Legend

No "salt the city" option when capturing an enemy city?

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Jojo_Fr

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Jojo_Fr

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10 years ago

Nov 18, 2014, 12:48:43 PM

This option should not exist as it is. For now you can raze a metropolis in one turn and destroy the victory of a conquiering player, which have invested some troops in this attack and merit to conquier your city. And razing his own people super fast and like that is absurd.

A city should be razed (not this term, but more a term for an organised retreat) in these conditions in my opinion :

- You got 100 % control of the city.

- The process long last 5 turns and cannot be beginned if city is assieged.

- When the 5 turns are over, each population in the city give one food reserve. Each building is solved for half his equivalent in production.

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Enlil

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Enlil

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10 years ago

Nov 23, 2014, 10:31:48 AM

A long the same lines, It would be nice if the original owner comes to reclaim their land, against the razing or the annexation, some rebel armies (in proportion to the population) should join and become under the control of the original owner to help fend off and expel the invaders.

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eobet

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eobet

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10 years ago

Nov 20, 2014, 1:12:58 AM

I've posted about this before.

The game is quite bad at explaining its own concepts, despite a slick looking UI...

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Andy_Dandy

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Andy_Dandy

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10 years ago

Nov 20, 2014, 1:04:36 AM

Nirual wrote:
Not the actual raze done by mercs (and Cultists, afaik).

Yeah, but that I'm OK with. These are their special abilities that makes them both worth while.

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Nirual

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Nirual

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10 years ago

Nov 19, 2014, 5:38:04 PM

Andy_Dandy wrote:
Same goes for this game.

Not the actual raze done by mercs (and Cultists, afaik).

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10 years ago

Nov 19, 2014, 12:38:31 PM

Enlil wrote:
I'm not suggesting that it should be immediate and shouldn't be balanced. I am fine waiting several turns, rather there should be two distinct paths upon capture: 1) Annexation and eventual assimilation or 2) Raze. Both of these options would take time, with assimilation taking longer.

Yea, I like this. Once you start the process to raze a city, it should be unreversable unless the city is recaptured, but then some structures and population has been lost. When you raze a city, you take a global diplomatic hit with the peaceful factions or factions that are identical with he city that was razed. This makes the Cultists somewhat disliked more than they already are. This also means that if one merc army razes a city, they are all equally hated now.

City annexation has a slow transformation of the structures in the city to the conquered tile sets

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Enlil

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Enlil

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10 years ago

Nov 19, 2014, 6:00:53 AM

Andy_Dandy wrote:
Lol, yes. Very realistic if you couldn't counter a city of yours taken. And good for gameplay? Given that a thought too?

I'm not suggesting that it should be immediate and shouldn't be balanced. I am fine waiting several turns, rather there should be two distinct paths upon capture: 1) Annexation and eventual assimilation or 2) Raze. Both of these options would take time, with assimilation taking longer.

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Andy_Dandy

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Andy_Dandy

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10 years ago

Nov 19, 2014, 2:12:00 AM

Nirual wrote:
Most 4X games make raze last a couple of turns but let you do it right after capture. So you can counter it, but you have to act quickly.

Same goes for this game.

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Nirual

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Nirual

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10 years ago

Nov 18, 2014, 1:12:06 PM

Andy_Dandy wrote:
Lol, yes. Very realistic if you couldn't counter a city of yours taken. And good for gameplay? Given that a thought too?

Most 4X games make raze last a couple of turns but let you do it right after capture. So you can counter it, but you have to act quickly.

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Stravask

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Stravask

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10 years ago

Aug 6, 2014, 6:13:25 AM

Title.

Capturing enemy cities and for some reason, there doesn't seem to be a "Salt the Earth" option, forcibly sticking me with the city.

Any workaround for this?

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IonDragonX

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IonDragonX

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10 years ago

Nov 18, 2014, 7:35:52 AM

The city is instantly razed if you capture it with a Privateer army. All you need is two techs for that: Market and Privateers. You can even clean out the city using siege and use a single unit Privateer to burn it down.

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Andy_Dandy

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Andy_Dandy

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10 years ago

Nov 17, 2014, 11:39:12 PM

Enlil wrote:
It seems kind of unrealistic. A conqueror that razes cities just goes in and torches everything as soon as the army falls. There should be an option to raze the city or try to convert it upon capture.

Lol, yes. Very realistic if you couldn't counter a city of yours taken. And good for gameplay? Given that a thought too?

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10 years ago

Nov 12, 2014, 3:52:11 PM

Enlil wrote:
It seems kind of unrealistic. A conqueror that razes cities just goes in and torches everything as soon as the army falls. There should be an option to raze the city or try to convert it upon capture.

There should be a salt the earth, but it will take a minimum of (insert turns here) and the city is destroyed like in CIV.

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Enlil

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Enlil

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10 years ago

Nov 12, 2014, 1:47:16 PM

It seems kind of unrealistic. A conqueror that razes cities just goes in and torches everything as soon as the army falls. There should be an option to raze the city or try to convert it upon capture.

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DotBeta

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DotBeta

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10 years ago

Aug 6, 2014, 10:16:26 AM

P sure the idea is to give the city a chance to go up from rebellion while also forcing you to choose your take overs wisely. Lots of people were simply razing cities as soon as they were conquered to negate the hit to empire approval.

As Teslaflux mentioned once ownership is complete you can raze the city if you still wish to.

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Stravask

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Stravask

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10 years ago

Aug 6, 2014, 7:59:35 AM

Teslaflux wrote:
You need to wait a certain time to gain the complet controll over the region, you can see this next to the city name there should be a number like 10% or 90% depending how long you hold the city. After that you can raze them.

Ahh, okay.

Thanks a bunch!

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Spekulatius

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Spekulatius

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10 years ago

Aug 6, 2014, 6:31:20 AM

You need to wait a certain time to gain the complet controll over the region, you can see this next to the city name there should be a number like 10% or 90% depending how long you hold the city. After that you can raze them.

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