Thematic inconsistency in the game. - Endless Legend

Thematic inconsistency in the game.

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Ashbery76

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Ashbery76

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9 years ago

Jan 9, 2016, 3:46:27 PM

Multiples of the same leaders.Dick 1/2/3/4 etc,

Unique weapons,armor can be equipped by every hero.

Same guardian types all on the map.

I feel these should only be allowed once.

For a game with a well developed theme it's a shame these small things take the game down like a bad plot twist.

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9 years ago

Jan 9, 2016, 4:54:47 PM

Agreed about the hero and unique weapons. Not so much about the guardians.

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Xenophon

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9 years ago

Jan 9, 2016, 7:01:46 PM

I think there must be a new thread about duplicate heroes every week

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9 years ago

Jan 9, 2016, 7:57:44 PM

Personally, I force myself not to equip legendary weapons to more than one hero. Perhaps there can be a game option to allow or disable duplicate weapons.

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9 years ago

Jan 9, 2016, 8:04:41 PM

Ashbery76 wrote:
Multiples of the same leaders.Dick 1/2/3/4 etc,

Unique weapons,armor can be equipped by every hero.

Same guardian types all on the map.

I feel these should only be allowed once.

For a game with a well developed theme it's a shame these small things take the game down like a bad plot twist.

A shame ye, 100% with you, tons of those little things tend to break immersion...

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9 years ago

Jan 10, 2016, 1:58:22 AM

Kingsguard wrote:
A shame ye, 100% with you, tons of those little things tend to break immersion...

I noticed in general that a lot of 4x/TBS devs don't give much thought to immersion and other elements. It's a shame indeed, because a lot of folks who play fantasy 4x/TBS also tend to be RPG players do put huge emphasis on those elements.

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9 years ago

Jan 10, 2016, 9:48:25 AM

Despite the flaws, Endless Legend is still easily one of the most immersive 4x out there, imo. It is comparable to Alpha Centauri.

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9 years ago

Jan 10, 2016, 6:45:14 PM

KnightofPhoenix wrote:
Despite the flaws, Endless Legend is still easily one of the most immersive 4x out there, imo. It is comparable to Alpha Centauri.

And I suspect that people would agree with you (I do) but of course when folks post on the internet, they inevitably add that "most people" or "many people" share their point of view in an unconscious effort to lend weight to their concerns. Not that I disagree with the points about duplicate weapons, heroes or duplicate races in the random map setup, but I do believe it is necessary to sometimes take a step back and think about how critical something really is before saying it is a big problem.

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Jan 10, 2016, 7:54:33 PM

KnightofPhoenix wrote:
Despite the flaws, Endless Legend is still easily one of the most immersive 4x out there, imo. It is comparable to Alpha Centauri.

There's even more to be praised, considering that Amplitude is a smaller and younger studio than Firaxis.

Moreover, the contiunous care about fixing and improving their games is great.

OTOH, this is a forum, so everyone can share their suggestions and ... uhm ... constructivew complaints ^^

I'm guessing that the devs have the duplicate weapons / heroes / races on their list, it may be that it's a bit more towards the bottom of that list than some of us would like.

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Jan 10, 2016, 11:54:21 PM

icarus86 wrote:
There's even more to be praised, considering that Amplitude is a smaller and younger studio than Firaxis.

Moreover, the contiunous care about fixing and improving their games is great.

OTOH, this is a forum, so everyone can share their suggestions and ... uhm ... constructivew complaints ^^

I'm guessing that the devs have the duplicate weapons / heroes / races on their list, it may be that it's a bit more towards the bottom of that list than some of us would like.

For sure they have mentioned the duplicate race problem is not a trivial fix. Seems to be embedded in the code deeply enough that it would take a lot of effort to resolve. They are aware of it.

The others like the weapons and heroes, I don't know if they share the same non-trivial effort to fix.

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9 years ago

Jan 11, 2016, 1:01:03 PM

I would definitely like to see the weapon fix as at least a option to choose to turn on or off if available, it is really nice when you are playing a speed game to be able to equip them to all and other times when you are playing for the immersion factor it sucks knowing that the AI is potentially running around with multiple specialty weapons as you limit yourself to a single one of each.

On the guardians part, I am not really sure I agree on that idea. I view Guardians as the last wall between godhood persay and sometimes a god can have more then one guardian. So I guess it does not ruin that factor because of that reason for me.

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9 years ago

Jan 11, 2016, 11:38:20 PM

I agree quest items should be allowed only on one hero, making him a badass but not on the entire range of heroes. That is often just too much of a bonus, every army lead by a badass is just not good for balance and immersion. Its a rather little thing just like the duplicate hero thing. But it would add more depth to the game.

Guardians however should probably be limited to one of each kind for each faction. That would also balance them a bit more.

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Xenophon

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9 years ago

Jan 12, 2016, 5:06:34 PM

I, too, agree with those who think Guardians and quest gear should really be unique. (But quest gear should get some buffs, too, to become unique.)

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9 years ago

Jan 13, 2016, 7:37:48 PM

Please Amplitude, give us random names for heroes!

Someone should ask Romain about this in the upcoming AMA on Reddit.

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9 years ago

Jan 13, 2016, 10:12:26 PM

Or lock the hero names down and quest heroes can not appear in the market place. No more duplicate heroes.

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