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(RESOLVED): Nakalim have incorrect effect on the Sophon OmniScience trait

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6 years ago
Sep 18, 2019, 3:49:46 PM

I'm noticing some weird inconsistencies with how the Nakalim are effecting the Sophon's OmniScience bonus calculations. Currently I'm testing them in a 6 player normal speed setup with the following players:


Sophon

Nakalim

United Empire

Horatio

Umbral Choir

Vaulters


Nakalim should add +1 to the completion of all tier 1 and tier 2 techs, but they don't.


The following should be the case:


Planetary Landscaping: Umbral Choir (1+1). This one is calculated correctly (2 of 6)

Off World Agribusiness: Horatio, United Empire (2+1). This one is calculated as only 2 (2 of 6)

XenoLinguistics: United Empire (1+1). This one is calculated as 0 (0 of 6)

Plasma Metallurgy: (0+1). This one is calcuated as 2 (2 of 6)


Also, the Sophons in this test have:

- no bonus to Efficient Shielding (Tier 2). Should be (1 of 6)

- full bonus to Eukaryotic Sap (Tier 2). Should be (1 of 6)

- full bonus to Botanical Scanning (Tier 2). Should be (1 of 6)

Updated 6 years ago.
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6 years ago
Sep 18, 2019, 4:04:28 PM

I took a look at this, and it's not an issue of the Nakalim trait. Let me break down the different techs you brought up:


  • Xenolinguistics, Eukaryotic Sap, and Botanical Scanning are Sophon-unique technologies, and as such receive the full bonus unless another sophon in the same match researches them
  • Efficient Shield is a ship technology, which are exempt from the sophon bonus, as far as I know
  • Off-World Agribusiness has a Horatio-variant, which is why it comes out as one less than you expected
  • Plasma Metallurgy was displayed as 1 out of 6 when I tested the same setup myself.
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6 years ago
Sep 18, 2019, 4:27:21 PM

Thank you. I did not know that the Sophon's OmniScience trait has the advantage of not counting someone if the opponent has a variant within the same Technology header or (vise versa) if the Sophon's have their own variant (unless there is another Sophon player to count towards it). That is surprising to me from its description, but I imagine it must be known amongst others who are accustomed to playing Sophons.


Here is my screen shot on mousing over the Plasma Meallurgy. It gave me the same (2 of 6) as before.

My game diagnostics: Diagnostics - 2019'09'18 @1107'41''.html


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6 years ago
Sep 18, 2019, 5:08:34 PM

I tried it on a secondary computer I have, and it correctly shows (1 out of 6). So I'm not sure. It must be something on my end that I'm doing. I'll go ahead and tag this as resolved.

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6 years ago
Sep 19, 2019, 7:41:48 AM

Speaking honestly, I think it may be a sde effect of the way variant technologies are implemented that just suited the affinity (because it helps you always get the bonus on Sophon-tech in games without other Sophon.) I admit the description is not necessarily clear about it, though.

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