I'm surprised Exploratory/Expansionist (focused on travel, colonizing, and maybe even trade) and Clandestine (focused on espionage and counter-espionage) are not on the wheel. Than again, I believe I remember it being said in one of the gameplay videos that there were originally supposed to be 8, but the balance couldn't be found, so two were abandoned. What were those two? I'm betting one of them is economic, which is why the Lumeris are now pacifists.

Also on the renaming debate, I'd suggest progressive and conservative, but those terms have taken on a bit of a different meaning presently. It's a shame, though. Would fit really well in relation to everything else on the wheel.

Maybe Innovative/Discovery and Orthodox? On second thought, it sounds good enough now.

UndeadPuppy wrote:

lo_fabre wrote:
Saying that I liked the original idea about scientist/religious, if it can offend some people, I prefer Amplitude changing it (selling more games ==> EL2 ).

My suggestion will be to change both as Theocracy vs Technocracy.

I doubt it would offend anyone except maybe hardcore extremists.

Science and religion, believe it or not, aren't always mutually exclusive. 

If anything.... it's the opposite from what I've seen.

You too would belive in a 'human friendly cthulu' if you were strapped in one of the first rockets to shoot into space. Gotta hedge them bets people!

lo_fabre wrote:
Saying that I liked the original idea about scientist/religious, if it can offend some people, I prefer Amplitude changing it (selling more games ==> EL2 ).

My suggestion will be to change both as Theocracy vs Technocracy.

I doubt it would offend anyone except maybe hardcore extremists.

Science and religion, believe it or not, aren't always mutually exclusive. 

Sotek wrote:

I wonder what kind of limitations we will have for the number of policies available simultaneously...

In the video from gamescom 2016 you can see that there are 6 slots for policies, 4 which are locked. So I guess with tech we will unlock more slots and that 6 maybe the maximum?

I wonder what kind of limitations we will have for the number of policies available simultaneously...

In my opinion the Science/Religion opposition is really good. Indeed Science is about How ? and Religion is about Why ?

Each one of us have to answer both, yes. But, as a group, we promote one.

lo_fabre wrote:
Indeed I share most of what you said about offending people. Only differ in saying that in some ways you have to be "politically correct". For me the original idea of Amplitude was the good one, but you can consider change it if there's enough people with extreme sensibility and money to buy their games. suspect for people like me wouldn't matter reading one or other thing if gameplay effects are the same.

Digitalhawk96 wrote:
Anyone who is so easily offended is a juicy Mango. Let me waffle just a bit: Here is a critical thought that's sure to ruffle lots of Jimmies if we were on a Youtube comment section; Heaven/Hell does not exist and nobody is eternally damned... yet I am of Christian Faith, so how can be, ooh damn, what Heresy indeed. Anyway... this isn't important to this discussion, moving on...



What is a Religion? A Faith or a Cult and so on? Are they separate or can they loosely be housed under the word "Religion". I believe "Theocracy" and "Technocracy" is far too strict in their meaning compared to the looseness and general openness of words like "Religion" and "Science"; after all WE the players can use our imagination for what our political wings represent truly - becoming sweet ass robots vs worshiping the Sun bruh.



Science is essentially the pursuit of "Knowledge" and as a political wing this makes sense for our idea of the "Senate". "Religion" can easily be used to represent a cultured sort of way of thinking, Worshiping our own Gods, Heroes and achievements or that of the Endless. So I think as they stand it makes a lot of sense just leaving it as those base titles. Yet both is can be seen the pursuit of meaning and truth.



So for you see, I believe the best names have already been picked and if people somehow are offended by such loose uses of these words... golly, that would be sad.

lo_fabre wrote:
Saying that I liked the original idea about scientist/religious, if it can offend some people, I prefer Amplitude changing it (selling more games ==> EL2 ).

My suggestion will be to change both as Theocracy vs Technocracy.

Brazilian_Joe wrote:
Traditional vs. Vanguard



maybe?