I'm starting to doubt the September release date... more and more signs point to a delay, despite the fact that the devs haven't officially stated it.

But then again, until the last day of September rolls over, their initial statement still stands. 

Luring wrote:

I know how to copy/paste too:

MezzoMax wrote:

OK there are two almost indentical threads about EA. So I just copy and paste my replies.

I too want some more communication from the devs. But Frogsquaddron is on vacation and he is really vocal and responsive.

I think we just should relax. Please people stay calm and don't get hostile, mind your tone please. Criticism is OK when it is voiced reasonably, and not like:

Luring wrote:

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Maybe it needs to be delayed (VIP's will say so because they want to feel important and keep it for themselves) and maybe it doesn't. Whatever it is, COMMUNICATE! Time for Amplitude to pull their heads out of their rear ends and talk with the major buyer group of their products before they start moving on.

The VIPs are part of their Q/A and if they say wait for EA, then they wait and fix some major bugs. They decide in which state they will deliver to EA. And be honest there are many good EA titles and a lot of bad ones. So they want to be seen as a rather good example. September isn't over yet, Stephanie said on the Steam forums very soon. So it shouldn't be too long or we should get a delay massage in the next days. Relax.

Oh? Well, if I get a delayed massage I should probably be really relaxed. A good massage can do that. But besides amplitude giving us massages, I really hope they give us a message if the early access is going to be delayed or not - which is what that post was really about.

I want to remind everyone that the Amplicrew are at EGX. Considering that whenever they go to events like this they tend to go a bit radio-silent I think we just need to wait a little longer.

I know how to copy/paste too:

MezzoMax wrote:

OK there are two almost indentical threads about EA. So I just copy and paste my replies.

I too want some more communication from the devs. But Frogsquaddron is on vacation and he is really vocal and responsive.

I think we just should relax. Please people stay calm and don't get hostile, mind your tone please. Criticism is OK when it is voiced reasonably, and not like:

Luring wrote:

...

Maybe it needs to be delayed (VIP's will say so because they want to feel important and keep it for themselves) and maybe it doesn't. Whatever it is, COMMUNICATE! Time for Amplitude to pull their heads out of their rear ends and talk with the major buyer group of their products before they start moving on.

The VIPs are part of their Q/A and if they say wait for EA, then they wait and fix some major bugs. They decide in which state they will deliver to EA. And be honest there are many good EA titles and a lot of bad ones. So they want to be seen as a rather good example. September isn't over yet, Stephanie said on the Steam forums very soon. So it shouldn't be too long or we should get a delay massage in the next days. Relax.

Oh? Well, if I get a delayed massage I should probably be really relaxed. A good massage can do that. But besides amplitude giving us massages, I really hope they give us a message if the early access is going to be delayed or not - which is what that post was really about.

OK there are two almost indentical threads about EA. So I just copy and paste my replies.

I too want some more communication from the devs. But Frogsquaddron is on vacation and he is really vocal and responsive.

I think we just should relax. Please people stay calm and don't get hostile, mind your tone please. Criticism is OK when it is voiced reasonably, and not like:

Luring wrote:

...

Maybe it needs to be delayed (VIP's will say so because they want to feel important and keep it for themselves) and maybe it doesn't. Whatever it is, COMMUNICATE! Time for Amplitude to pull their heads out of their rear ends and talk with the major buyer group of their products before they start moving on.

The VIPs are part of their Q/A and if they say wait for EA, then they wait and fix some major bugs. They decide in which state they will deliver to EA. And be honest there are many good EA titles and a lot of bad ones. So they want to be seen as a rather good example. September isn't over yet, Stephanie said on the Steam forums very soon. So it shouldn't be too long or we should get a delay massage in the next days. Relax.

Mokinokaro wrote:

Luring wrote:

(VIP's will say so because they want to feel important and keep it for themselves) 

That's not at all how the VIPs here operate.   If they delay it, it's likely due to MAJOR bugs.

Possibly. I would just be guessing to be fair and that sentence was originally meant to be taken as a joke (even though there was probably some jealous bitter feels behind them). At any rate, this is not the issue. If the VIP's decide to delay it more then I am sure most of them will have a reason to and Amplitude would naturally require a good reason for delaying it in such manner. No - the problem here is the utter lack of communication from Amplitude. From a company that used to be so open, to becoming so close. They need to get on the ball and tell us what the situation is with the Early Access because they already dropped the ball on it once. The whole being left in the dark is souring the excitement for the game for a few of us in the fan base.

TL;DR: Take the time if you need it, BUT KEEP US INFORMED! Early Access September - yes or no?

If ani VIPs read this, please dont delay it, if it got major bugs the easy solution is to stop playing and wait for the next update. You will also get ALOT more feedback, its a win, win situation. please ;(.

Don't forget the VIPs are essentially important how Endless Legend turned out to be... The Cultist are such a refreshing new race, which wouldn't have been here without the VIPs... Just relax and have faith in their doings

Luring wrote:

(VIP's will say so because they want to feel important and keep it for themselves) 

That's not at all how the VIPs here operate.   If they delay it, it's likely due to MAJOR bugs.

They need to inform either way. Amplitude are really failing at communicating. They need to tell us ASAP if its coming this month or if it gets delayed. They sent out newsletter saying it will be September so if there is going to be a delay they have to share it right away. In my eyes they are just doing more and more damage to their name and the respect they built up.

Maybe it needs to be delayed (VIP's will say so because they want to feel important and keep it for themselves) and maybe it doesn't. Whatever it is, COMMUNICATE! Time for Amplitude to pull their heads out of their rear ends and talk with the major buyer group of their products before they start moving on.

Sinnaj63 wrote:

Ezumiyr wrote:

Sinnaj63 wrote:

Mokinokaro wrote:

MezzoMax wrote:

Ah you missed the announcement for September release. EA should be availible for September. There was no confirmed date neither an information about a delay. So I hope we just have to hang in a little big longer.

I'm actually doubting the September date myself.   If it was coming next week, we'd probably already have an announcement.

They did say in the Steam forums that the VIPs would have the game now and their feedback would influence greatly how early it'll be released into Early Access IIRC.

They have the game since a long time ago, since they provided feedback in each game design document.

I think it's specifically the feedback about "is the game ready for early access" ? that is in question. The VIP seem to think it is not.

I don't think they did the GDD feedback sounded like they recieved the GDDs earlier. Only now have they actually gotten to play the game, and are supposed to give feedback off how ready it is for EA.

Yeah you're right.

From 5 years ago (damn, I feel old now) :

skamaks wrote:
I think the VIP status needs some explanations  



The users called VIPs are a very small group of people we contacted at an earlier stage (used to game development or with a solid enough gaming experience) to discuss very detailed topics in terms of game design and gameplay.

You can consider them as a first filter before the topics come up to these forums. They of course had to sign terrific legal documents with their own blood as they have access to some very confidential info about the game.

They all come from different horizons, community leaders, modders, dev tem friends, people at various positions in the gaming industry, etc… and are here to help us make the best game possible.



But hey get this right:

- Non-VIP proposals, comments and feedback are as important and taken into account.

- VIPs have exactly the same status as other members, they just have access to more info.

- That doesn’t mean the VIP list is closed and that we won’t accept new members. We will certainly propose to most active members to join the VIP group.

Ezumiyr wrote:

Sinnaj63 wrote:

Mokinokaro wrote:

MezzoMax wrote:

Ah you missed the announcement for September release. EA should be availible for September. There was no confirmed date neither an information about a delay. So I hope we just have to hang in a little big longer.

I'm actually doubting the September date myself.   If it was coming next week, we'd probably already have an announcement.

They did say in the Steam forums that the VIPs would have the game now and their feedback would influence greatly how early it'll be released into Early Access IIRC.

They have the game since a long time ago, since they provided feedback in each game design document.

I think it's specifically the feedback about "is the game ready for early access" ? that is in question. The VIP seem to think it is not.

I don't think they did the GDD feedback sounded like they recieved the GDDs earlier. Only now have they actually gotten to play the game, and are supposed to give feedback off how ready it is for EA.

Sinnaj63 wrote:

Mokinokaro wrote:

MezzoMax wrote:

Ah you missed the announcement for September release. EA should be availible for September. There was no confirmed date neither an information about a delay. So I hope we just have to hang in a little big longer.

I'm actually doubting the September date myself.   If it was coming next week, we'd probably already have an announcement.

They did say in the Steam forums that the VIPs would have the game now and their feedback would influence greatly how early it'll be released into Early Access IIRC.

They have the game since a long time ago, since they provided feedback in each game design document.

I think it's specifically the feedback about "is the game ready for early access" ? that is in question. The VIP seem to think it is not.

Mokinokaro wrote:

MezzoMax wrote:

Ah you missed the announcement for September release. EA should be availible for September. There was no confirmed date neither an information about a delay. So I hope we just have to hang in a little big longer.

I'm actually doubting the September date myself.   If it was coming next week, we'd probably already have an announcement.

They did say in the Steam forums that the VIPs would have the game now and their feedback would influence greatly how early it'll be released into Early Access IIRC.

MezzoMax wrote:

Ah you missed the announcement for September release. EA should be availible for September. There was no confirmed date neither an information about a delay. So I hope we just have to hang in a little big longer.

I'm actually doubting the September date myself.   If it was coming next week, we'd probably already have an announcement.

i will be happy when it happy.  alos hope price will not be to big I expect 50 euro.  

Ah you missed the announcement for September release. EA should be availible for September. There was no confirmed date neither an information about a delay. So I hope we just have to hang in a little big longer.

MezzoMax wrote:

Hah nice try to lure out the release date of Early Access.

But Steph'nie one question though: How soon is "very soon" ? I mean the September clock is ticking.

 On main website is date that will hapen in 2016. so i can suspect December.

Hah nice try to lure out the release date of Early Access.

But Steph'nie one question though: How soon is "very soon" ? I mean the September clock is ticking.

xijadeku wrote:

At star I'm sory for asking this, I know is to early to get 100% correct answer. So I'm asking if U consider to at some point start selling game  whit Early Access like it was whit "Endless Space 1" and "Endless Legend". I remember playing this game at early stage and i hope to have possibility to do the same whit  "Endless Space 2". 

Thank you for your time.

PS owner of Endless Space form Dec, 2012.

Hey,

As you know, we've been doing early access since Endless Space 1, on all our games. So, we intend to continue with a Steam Early Access for Endless Space 2  as well. So very soon, you will be able to try out the alpha and give us your feefback on the game! :)