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7 years ago
Jun 4, 2017, 9:22:40 PM

As a general thesis, I'm curious about the meaning behind the names for some of the races in the Endless setting, and Endless Space in particular.


Some names are more obvious; the Riftborn came from a rift between their universe and the Endless universe (ours?).


There are a few names, though, that are more vague.


These are:


Sophons

Unfallen

Vodyani

Lumeris


To be fair, if some of these names were picked solely because they sound cool, that is a fair justification.


Given how much attention is put into the creative details of the universe, though, I'm assuming there is more intent to these names.


If nothing else, I would love to know from the players responsible for the Unfallen what that name referres to.

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7 years ago
Jun 5, 2017, 10:14:04 AM

Sophons seem to be related to the term Sophist which is fairly self-explanatory.


Unfallen is harder to pin down, but I'm guessing it has to do with their focus towards being strong, stoic and resolute even if the universe is extremely hostile.


Vodyani could be inspired by the vodyanoy ,  a slavic folklore creature that was cunning and steals souls. Considering they're styled for vampires, which are somewhat slavic in origin (though otherwise hard to trace to any one source). I guess they wanted a less on-the-nose reference.


Lumeris I'm drawing a blank on, but funny enough googling it gives me all kind of different corporations with the name. You won't find ES2's race until halfway down the second page.

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7 years ago
Jun 5, 2017, 10:30:00 AM

Sophia is greek for wisdom, and is the basis of philosophy.


Unfallen is a community name suggested by DevilDog for his concept, so you'd have to ask him.



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7 years ago
Jun 6, 2017, 4:25:57 PM

There's some other elements too.


The Sophons are one letter away from being Sophonts, a noun used to refer to any sentient and intelligent species, as opposed to the more anthrocentric humanoid which typically implies a certain cultural core and a very particular limb arrangement.


Unfallen (though this would be better if they were the Unfelled) are trees, hence their name refers to the act of "felling a tree;" since they are Unfallen, even as soldiers or ships, this implies that they are unbeaten, unexploited, and generally both free and unharmed, implying strength and a cultural core of voluntary behavior. This makes the name more poetic if you're from the woods like I am, since it raises lots of imagery of the Unfallen defying loggers and lumberjacks, making them much more Ent-like.


Vodyani has the letter V for Vampire (flimsy but it's there), and also it uses the same ending as Romani, who as an ethnic group are A. traditionally nomadic much like the Vodyani, and B. typically connected to various horror stories due to age old reputations based on accusations of paganism and witchcraft, including, yes, showing up in various vampire stories, including various versions of Dracula and Dracula related spinoff material, such as the Dungeons and Dragons module Ravenloft. This is especially notable as the Romani have typically historically been accused of strange religious rituals, kidnapping, and theft, as well as being known for stylish and extravagant decoration of their vardo's and clothing, which fits into the distinct (and somewhat gold) aesthetic of Vodyani ships and the focus on their advanced and aesthetically pleasing Cloth.


Lumeris are a bit tougher, but it's worth noting that their name includes both a prefix implying "luminous," and an ending which sounds traditionally Italian due to the i, which is a typical ending for various Italian surnames, with the s providing a slight variation that's still recognizable depending on your pronunciation. Meanwhile, luminous is an especially apt word, as it is an adjective which refers to something which is "full of or shedding light; bright or shining, especially in the dark." This is notable in their art style, which combines bright lights and glitzy decoration with otherwise dark surroundings, from Arden and Jenestra clinking glasses in a darkened room, to Arden firing a pistol with a bright flash in an otherwise dark room (with the background activity itself being very bright and similarly colored), to (to a much lesser extent unfortunately) the bursts of green marking the elements of the conspiracy in the otherwise monochrome Lumeris comic. Essentially, their name brings to mind chiaroscuro or even tenebrism, the artistic element of the interplay of light and darkness being the first, and the latter being an artistic style based on a heavily exaggerated and dominating use of chiaroscuro, both of which are well represented in Lumeris illustrations.


Granted I'm not sure all of this was intended, but you know how it is with artistic and literary critique. Once it's out there it's free for us to play with the meanings.

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7 years ago
Jun 6, 2017, 4:55:01 PM

Sophons, sounds like greek to me for Sophia/Sophos (wise) as Frogsquadron said.

Another word I recognise in greek, is Mavros wich stands for black.


Unfallen for tree people sounds fitting.


Vodyani are indeed too similar to Vodyanoi, a race of water creatures I first heard of in the Witcher.


Lumeris have a luminous tint in their name. Is this a hint for the "true rulers" of a world, those behind the scenes that pull the strings with lots of money at their disposal? 

Iluminati confirmed??? :PPP

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7 years ago
Jun 6, 2017, 5:25:23 PM

iceGremlin hit the nail on the head about the Unfallen. 


I strongly considered "The Unfelled", but decided on the Unfallen as it sounded better and could be reasonably understood. 

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7 years ago
Jun 7, 2017, 3:34:32 PM
vahouth wrote:

Lumeris have a luminous tint in their name. Is this a hint for the "true rulers" of a world, those behind the scenes that pull the strings with lots of money at their disposal? 

"It all comes down to money in the end. To Dust."

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7 years ago
Jun 7, 2017, 3:40:04 PM

Also. Captain Autism called and he said the following:

Those are *SPECIES*, not races! It's not ***** Dungeons&Dragons with magic genetics where ogres and fairies can interbreed, it's relatively realistic sci-fi! Spe-ci-es!

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7 years ago
Jun 9, 2017, 6:19:50 AM
DisnagBurnazog wrote:

Also. Captain Autism called and he said the following:


Again with the disability bashing and throwing us around as a petty insult? It was a nice thread too, until the random hate.

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7 years ago
Jun 9, 2017, 6:47:48 AM

This might be a stretch, but I suspect "Horatio" might be named for Horatio Alger.  Essentially, Horatio Alger was a popular writer from the 19th century who popularized the concept of "rags to riches" as a story concept. He's a very contentious figure because social mobility is a very good thing to emphasize as a desirable thing for a society to have, but it can be misused to blame those whose poverty is borne of bad fortune and lack of opportunities. 


In any case, it'd be a very fitting name for a trillionaire who has the notion that everyone can be just like him.

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7 years ago
Jun 9, 2017, 6:56:56 AM
MidnightTea wrote:

This might be a stretch, but I suspect "Horatio" might be named for Horatio Alger.  ...it'd be a very fitting name for a trillionaire who has the notion that everyone can be just like him.

I would totally be willing to sign on with that theory! It'd make a lot of sense. For that matter it'd be a whole other faction entirely if he was named for Horatio Hornblower instead; at that point we'd be getting Morgawr in space, or at least a weird relative of the UE.


Let's also not forget that, according to his intro and the short narrated window we get at the beginning, Horatio considers himself a Rags to Riches story, rejected by everyone but ultimately was the victor.

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7 years ago
Jun 9, 2017, 9:12:31 AM
DisnagBurnazog wrote:

Heya Frogsboss
Why do vampire zealots have a name of kinda neutral slavic water spirit?

I'm not sure Slowhands would want me to tell, so you'll have to ask him. Also, "Captain Autism"? Please don't.

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7 years ago
Jun 11, 2017, 7:46:58 PM

Thanks to everyone whos chimed in here, this has been really interesting to follow!


To throw one more faction name into the mix for the genius' here:


What does Mezari mean?

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