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Ministry of truth, value?

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7 years ago
Nov 25, 2017, 8:38:10 PM

im wondering if there is anything about the ministry of truth that balances its Massive construction cost and exorbitant upkeep cost to its insignificant bonus?



https://www.dropbox.com/s/qnyv9b6rnq7yojd/Screenshot%202017-11-25%2014.57.48.png?dl=0

benefits of having this monumental waste of well everything
-25% of your dust on empire
(a wondor that reduces your total income by 1/4th great)

+50 industry per empire at war.
( not sure if this is per war in the galaxy or per war with you but a whole whopping 50 industry i hope i don't sneeze and blow that away)


now the cost
18720 industry

1) well at the payout of 50 industry per turn per war it would take you 375 turns with 1 war going on to break even here
ok lets make a best case scenario here
2) assuming that it is per war in the galaxy and there are 10 other races in the galaxy and you convince them all to go to war with each other that is 55 wars going on which would result in 2750 industry per turn gain at that rate it would only take you 6 turns to pay down the industry cost

150 orichalcix and 150 quadrinix
( wow these are the 2 rarest resources in my current game im almost 500 turns in and just started earning an income of quadrinix and my orichalcix income >10 atm

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7 years ago
Nov 25, 2017, 9:04:16 PM

It's per war with you. No, it's not really worth it.


To clarify, the -25% Dust is referring to ship upkeep.

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7 years ago
Nov 25, 2017, 10:37:26 PM
Aitarus wrote:

It's per war with you. No, it's not really worth it.


To clarify, the -25% Dust is referring to ship upkeep.

that makes it significantly better then i thought

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7 years ago
Nov 25, 2017, 11:14:54 PM

Yeah, if the Dust symbol has a slice missing, it's Upkeep, not income. Not that fleet upkeep has ever meant anything in the face of ever increasing trade route income.

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7 years ago
Nov 26, 2017, 4:42:02 AM

Is it +50 indus for an entire empire or just system that build it? Still, 50 is just meh for late game. I feel like it should be percentage rather than flat bonus.

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7 years ago
Nov 26, 2017, 1:10:25 PM

It's on the system. On Empire effects are usually followed by 'On Empire'.


No, -25% upkeep is really not worth it at all especially that late game. It'll barely make a dent in your income. For my Later Victories mod, I have increased the effect of the Ministry of Truth to +10% industry on system per war and -50% upkeep to make it an actually appealing final wonder.

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7 years ago
Nov 27, 2017, 8:32:38 PM

hm, I think this wonder doesn't add anything to the game. As already said, ship costs are irrelevant and the industry buff is slightly boring, too. 


From the name of it, I expected something regarding influence, propaganda/empire pressure and/or elections.

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7 years ago
Dec 6, 2017, 6:55:21 PM

most useless wonder in the game, never built it in any of my gameplays. a better question would be, why is this wonder in the game to begin with? 

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7 years ago
Dec 7, 2017, 5:32:04 PM

I see it as a placeholder ^^


Some of the buildings seem this way. Nothing bad about it. We could come up with some cool ideas and enter the modding 101. Do some mods ourselves.



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