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Lore questions about Harrow & Academy [A bit spoilery]

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7 years ago
Feb 26, 2018, 2:49:52 AM

Hi,


After all time playing, I never asked myself, but found curious that the Academy is orbiting a destroyed planed. Not even this, but also this planet, Harrow, looks like it had beeen victim of a planet cracker, so quetions arise:

- Why is it orbiting a destroyed planet?

- How was it destroyed? And if with a planet cracker by whom?

- Was originally over the surface?

- Why did Isyander pick that place?


Sorry about if some of these are explained somewhere, but ATM I don't remember each line of ES/EL lore.

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7 years ago
Feb 26, 2018, 5:00:27 AM

The planet Harrow is hinted to be a result of the Endless genocide against the Lost. So basically, it was probably a center of the Lost and was probably destroyed as a result. Hence why Isyander would pick such a place for the Academy (as he read the Tabernacle and realized that most of the Endless's dust power came from harvesting the Lost and has spent much of his life trying to amend for the mistakes of the Endless; i.e Academy Quest). 


How it was destroyed, well considering the Endless were the most powerful faction of their time, they probably went about it in some sort of 'Death Star' esq way. 

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7 years ago
Feb 27, 2018, 3:22:40 PM

Originally, Harrow was another "Lodestone"-style planet that was a temple to the Lost. Isyander chose it either because the Tabernacle led him there, or because that is the site where he found the most remaining information about the Lost.


-Slow

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7 years ago
Feb 27, 2018, 4:54:10 PM
Slowhands wrote:

Originally, Harrow was another "Lodestone"-style planet that was a temple to the Lost. Isyander chose it either because the Tabernacle led him there, or because that is the site where he found the most remaining information about the Lost.


-Slow

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7 years ago
Feb 28, 2018, 9:20:45 PM
Slowhands wrote:

Originally, Harrow was another "Lodestone"-style planet that was a temple to the Lost. Isyander chose it either because the Tabernacle led him there, or because that is the site where he found the most remaining information about the Lost.


-Slow

Ho ho!

Thanks. Neer suspected it was a Lodestone!.


I was thinking close to @Suis3i, but not sure about any detail.


This still aroses more questions:

- Were all Lodestones Lost temples?

- Were the place where Endless annhilated the Lost?

- Thats the reason why Harrow is destroyed?


Also still are lots of details remaining. Let's speculate...

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7 years ago
Mar 1, 2018, 12:04:11 AM

I don't think Lodestones are just considered Lost temples, but more akin to important planets/centers of the Lost civilization (I could be totally wrong though)


Kinda like Tor/Sykajoga/Auriga are important centers of the Endless civilization. 



As for the places that the Endless annihilated the Lost. I doubt the Endless just went to 10ish planets and killed all of the Lost there, but probably hunted them down throughout the galaxy and began systematically killing them off. Harrow and the other Lodestone (Lost Centers) were probably where more of the Lost civilization was located, and thus the sites of more death when the Endless began their genocide.



Harrow was most likely destroyed by the Endless during their genocide; or some ulterior, unknown, mysterious reason. bum bum bummm 


(could be completely wrong about all of this but yee)

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7 years ago
Mar 1, 2018, 11:53:39 AM

Similar suspicons here. also more questions (hell, only starting with Harrow):


- Why can the lost be recovered on Lodestones?

- Why were thi places so important for this civilization.

- If Harrow was one lodestone and was detroyed, why aren't the oters se see in Academy quest?

- From previous, why still are important, as seems to cointain some "power"?

- And why take 10 turns to destroy them instead of simply going with a planet cracker in one turn? (Well undersand that here probably game balance comes first than lore, but anyway you'll get the idea)

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7 years ago
Mar 7, 2018, 12:11:41 AM

The Lost were attracted to the Lodestones by the Endless, with whom they were at peace with. The Endless then betrayed them after bringing most of the Lost to the Lodestones.


So the Lodestones are important because they allow for Dust amplification and transmission to the Lost, so Iyander is attempting to undo the sins of the Endless at the site of their sins.


As far as planet cracking goes, none of the races in game are as powerful as the Endless.

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7 years ago
Mar 7, 2018, 1:52:37 PM

Didn't see much of this info specifically on the game. Is it into some quest?

Anyway even if it is not, this is a reasonable supposition.


What still is not explained is why Harrow is destroyed

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7 years ago
Mar 9, 2018, 12:54:08 AM

Slowhands confirmed that the Endless brought the Lost to the lodestones for harvest/sacrifice. 


The second part comes another post where a Dev talked about how Lodestones are communication beacons/relays.


Last is a simply educated guess.

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