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Minor Faction Issue in Regards to Vodyani Play as well as disappearance through Assimilation.

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8 years ago
Oct 7, 2016, 10:10:53 PM

So, the way we deal with minor factions is that we assimilate them into our empire, either through peaceful means or by force. This is heavily incentivized, as it makes them stop producing roaming pirate fleets and your empire also gains their affinity, which is pretty nifty. However, this poses problems in a couple of ways, primarily for the Vodyani from what I have seen.


Firstly, the Vodyani don't assimilate them like normal, instead converting them to their religion Cultist style. But, unlike when another empire assimilates, the minor faction remains there, and can be converted by another Vodyani faction, as I've had that happen to me, and I suspect they can be assimilated by a non-Vodyani faction as well. In addition, I was hoping that when converted a minor faction would function as a permanent food source for te Vodyani, but I was unable to use them for Essence. I don't know if this is intentional or a bug.


Second, since when a minor faction is assimilated, it doesnt remain afterwards. As the Vodyani I was on my second quest, to convert a minor faction, but 3 times I neared conversion only to have the sophons assimilate them right from under me. I of course exterminated the Sophons from the stars, but after conquering the sophon systems, it auto removes all population, including the minor faction, and they don't remain for conversion or assimilation. This aspect seems to put the Vodyani at a disadvantage when it comes to minor faction manipulation, and it also left me unable to continue my main quest line as all other minors had been assiilated, which seems like a huge problem for a major faction to have.


I didn't see anyone else talking about this so figured I'd start it off.

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8 years ago
Oct 8, 2016, 12:46:25 AM

I only have that happen to me when I play on Endless Difficulty, as the AI gets a cheating resource bonus - which means they get to buy them out before I do. As the Vodyani you produce more Influence than any of the other factions. Which means if you don´t waste the influence into laws - you will be able to assimilate a minor before any other faction. ( With the exception of the Lumeris, but then again you won´t be playing against an entire galaxy filled with Lumeris ).


Since the 2nd last step is to ally the minor - you cannot leech off of a minor, since the minor is a hostile faction. The last step is razing their system and completely assimilating them. It´s one step more than the other factions have to take - which can be confusing. My first time around I thought making them my ally was the last step, until I discovered the button was still there later on for the last step.


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Also as a word of advice: Since the cost does not increase per step - calculate beforehand exactly how much you need to flip them - and then do it all in one go, so you don´t risk wasting your resources if someone beats you to the punch.

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