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Bilgeli, the Game Killer Planet that should never have existed

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8 years ago
Oct 16, 2016, 3:25:36 AM

I understand why it exist lore wise, but a planet like that shouldnt be on an easily colonizable planet. I saw the bonuses and they were nuts

Check these broken stats.


+4 food +4 production +8 science +2 dust +4 Influence


Per Pop. 8 sized planet with no research requirements because it is a got damn veldt.


Whoever finds this planet early game automatically wins. This one freaking planet will develop 3 to 4 times faster then any other planet and have amazing production, and the science makes the sophons entire speciality seems like a minor bonus.

Think of it this way. Consider every single specialist planet WE CANT EVEN RESEARCH TO SETTLE YET BECAUSE IT REQUIRES ATLEAST AGE 4 TO GET to be on this planet COMBINED.


A planet that specializes exclusively in food? +8 food? Got it A planet that specializes in production? +8 production? got it. A plenet that specializes in science? +12 Science.

I can go on and on about this broken ♥♥♥ planet. What is the funniest thing is on those specialist planets, they have like 2-3 population size. This one has 8.

Remove this planet now

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8 years ago
Oct 16, 2016, 12:02:05 PM

I cannot agree with you OP unless I know more about this planet's surroundings, meaning the other planets in the system.

And that's because each system is as good as the sum of its planets.

I'd choose a mediocre 5-planet star system every day over a single-uber-planet system, especially if I'm playing as the Vodyani that can work all of them at once.

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8 years ago
Oct 16, 2016, 1:37:22 PM

Don't get angry. It's EA and just started. Another think that will be balanced. Indeed I suspect they can do it easily.

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8 years ago
Oct 16, 2016, 11:19:46 PM
vahouth wrote:

I cannot agree with you OP unless I know more about this planet's surroundings, meaning the other planets in the system.

And that's because each system is as good as the sum of its planets.

I'd choose a mediocre 5-planet star system every day over a single-uber-planet system, especially if I'm playing as the Vodyani that can work all of them at once.


You know how mineral rich gives +3 production?


Imagine a planet with an anomaly that gives +4 food +4 production +8 science +2 dust +4 Influence


Just think on that for a second.


This anomaly is equivalent to have a snow planet, ash, ice, arid, all ADDED to a veldt.

So even if you have a 3 planet system, they might not be able to pass this one planet, ALSO, you only need 8 pop to fully exploit this while u need 20+ pop to do the other way. That is close to 30 turns of growth extra for the same result.

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8 years ago
Oct 16, 2016, 11:47:18 PM

No it's not. Ice is 18, ash is 14, arid is 14 and snow is 10.

A medium Veldt is 7pop with 4, 4, 5, 4, 0. The bonus from the anomaly is almost equivalent to another medium terran but with 2 less, 3 more and 4.

So, if Bilgeli is a 1-planet star system, it acts as a 2-planet system. Why is that OP? Why is that better than getting a mediocre 4-planet system instead?

Unless Bilgeli is already part of such a system in which case, good for you but still not OP.



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8 years ago
Oct 17, 2016, 1:49:18 AM

In a playthrough as the Vodyani, I found Bilgeli in the system immediately adjacent to my starting Ark. On turn 2. It was a two-planet system with only one workable - but that was better than my three-planet system with two lavas - and so I immediately weighed anchor and moved to greener shores. So I had a great starting planet, but little room to grow, and was cut off from minor factions by - get this - another Vodyani player, immediately adjacent to Bilgeli on a different starlane. I didn't end up doing well that game.


Bilgeli is good, but not overpowering. It really does depend on system quality.


I will say that it was immensely pleasing story-wise for my Vodyani to settle their home Ark around the world that first bore Virtual fruit. It was as a homecoming, for in the orbitals around Bilgeli they found the sacred foundations of Their most holy order.

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8 years ago
Oct 17, 2016, 6:27:34 PM
MorallyGray wrote:
I cant say i recognise this planet, but as a vodyani player, i want it.

As a Craver player, I want to abuse the hell out of it and make sure no one else can enjoy it.

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8 years ago
Oct 17, 2016, 6:48:25 PM

I'm just leaving this here :




woop woop woop woop woop woop woop woop 

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8 years ago
Oct 17, 2016, 11:06:10 PM
Pejman wrote:

I'm just leaving this here :




woop woop woop woop woop woop woop woop 

so broken lol.

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8 years ago
Oct 17, 2016, 11:36:12 PM

Lol that Bilgeli even has 2 dust ruins!? and adamantium. I bet there will be a lot of rebalances with the influence income in patches to come, the thing is that it's quite hard to get a standard influence income since other things usually take precedence (meaning I think the first tier pop&diplo is weak compared to the other 3 -> getting more colonization options, ships and mining resources takes priority) and if you manage to get that bonus of influence you can control a minor faction asap. I actually did that on a gameplay with Sophons (had Bilgeli next to me) and I even had the Deuyivans 2 systems afar... I aquired them for maximum tech ownage !

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8 years ago
Oct 18, 2016, 2:00:05 AM

Worst thing was it was an IA who had it so it took me a while to take it for me

But honestly if you look at the income from each planet it's not that different, end game most of the income comes from improvements, but early on these planets and anomalies are really strong

In this system except for dust if we combine the FIDSI of the 2 other planets it's much better than bigeli, so having 1 extra planet could actually be better

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8 years ago
Oct 18, 2016, 3:24:17 AM

Bilgeli is propping up my Craver empire pretty much by itself while all my other systems descend into rebellion and start bleeding pops.

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8 years ago
Oct 18, 2016, 8:50:34 AM

Pejman wrote:

But honestly if you look at the income from each planet it's not that different, end game most of the income comes from improvements, but early on these planets and anomalies are really strong

In this system except for dust if we combine the FIDSI of the 2 other planets it's much better than bigeli, so having 1 extra planet could actually be better

That's exactly my point.


atejas wrote:

Bilgeli is propping up my Craver empire pretty much by itself while all my other systems descend into rebellion and start bleeding pops.

Probably because of the +40. That's a nice buff!

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8 years ago
Oct 18, 2016, 9:28:19 AM

the 40 approval is only on mine because it has 2 de_dust_2 ruins

#ithoughtitwasfunnybeforewritingthisjoke

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