Asuzu wrote:

 

- You can stop enemy ships only for 1 turn, and then they are on their way

This results in comical situations when you are at war with 2-3 parties and their ships are flooding in, your armada cannot actually stop anything. So instead of standing ground with actual armada this forces player to put fleets in all surrounding systems as well to catch stragglers the main fleet guarding a system 1 jump away could not catch. It is a chore, not strategy. 

I honestly vote this to be the way as it was in ES1 - if there is a fleet guarding a system, you need to deal with it or piss off the way you came.

 

The system in Es1 also made things, like the annoying situation where your main armada (of even various big fleets) was stacked by a 3rd party explorer in a neutral system, when you need it to fight 3 systems away with the faction you were actually at war.

I think that Amplitude is trying to solve this, but I'm having same troubles as you. So really we changed a problem for another.

May be the solution is to make fleets blocking in ES1 way ships from empires you're at war with, blocking actual Es2 way neutral ships and not blocking at all allied faction's ships.

Not sure, but I like to see they are at least trying to solve Es1 problems.

Nothing to say about all your other comments, as I have same problems and share most of your ideas.

lo_fabre wrote:

Asuzu wrote:

 

- You can stop enemy ships only for 1 turn, and then they are on their way

This results in comical situations when you are at war with 2-3 parties and their ships are flooding in, your armada cannot actually stop anything. So instead of standing ground with actual armada this forces player to put fleets in all surrounding systems as well to catch stragglers the main fleet guarding a system 1 jump away could not catch. It is a chore, not strategy. 

I honestly vote this to be the way as it was in ES1 - if there is a fleet guarding a system, you need to deal with it or piss off the way you came.

 

The system in Es1 also made things, like the annoying situation where your main armada (of even various big fleets) was stacked by a 3rd party explorer in a neutral system, when you need it to fight 3 systems away with the faction you were actually at war.

I think that Amplitude is trying to solve this, but I'm having same troubles as you. So really we changed a problem for another.

May be the solution is to make fleets blocking in ES1 way ships from empires you're at war with, blocking actual Es2 way neutral ships and not blocking at all allied faction's ships.

Not sure, but I like to see they are at least trying to solve Es1 problems.

Nothing to say about all your other comments, as I have same problems and share most of your ideas.

Hmm, this never was a problem for me in ES1, since you could always clean up anything in your way during cold war?

Considering I always was cheesing into +science and +dust traits per destroyed CP, there was no way I would miss a snack on the road :)

But you could attack one time.
One defense strategy was to delay an attack by sending crap ships

Asuzu wrote:

Hmm, this never was a problem for me in ES1, since you could always clean up anything in your way during cold war?

Considering I always was cheesing into +science and +dust traits per destroyed CP, there was no way I would miss a snack on the road :)

I can't deny that this could be solved, and with proper tactics you could even benefit from it. But with most of factions (or if you didn't pick this trait in custom factions), it was very annoying, specially against automatons when AI started to fill every place with 1CP fleets.

As @Kweel_Nakashyn said, the trouble was that you only could attack once per turn, and if overwhelmed by fleets you can be stucked in some systems.

It was also annoying when exploring.

And cleaning in cold war, I've been about a yer without playing Es1, so I can't tell for sure but iirc in ES1 you couldn't attack ships in territory of another faction during cold war.

As I see it, the problem was there in ES1, but not sure if it is solved in the best way in ES2.

We worked on this for the 1st update:

- All fleets are considered to "guard" the system regardless of ship types

It was the case in Endless Space 1, we always considered it as a System-wide action.

Still, your colony ship will not be attacked as long as you have a stronger fleet in orbit: we always pick the strongest fleet of an empire on a given node to fight.

- You can stop enemy ships only for 1 turn, and then they are on their way

Soon, we will also implement the auto-merge mechanics (update 2), which would alleviate this issue.

- You cannot protect a system from invasion even when your entire armada is in orbit

This issue has been fixed for the 1st update.

- AI suicidal exploration

I'll pass that on to the AI team. Thank you for the feedback!

Cheers,

Meedoc wrote:

We worked on this for the 1st update:

- All fleets are considered to "guard" the system regardless of ship types

It was the case in Endless Space 1, we always considered it as a System-wide action.

Still, your colony ship will not be attacked as long as you have a stronger fleet in orbit: we always pick the strongest fleet of an empire on a given node to fight.

- You can stop enemy ships only for 1 turn, and then they are on their way

Soon, we will also implement the auto-merge mechanics (update 2), which would alleviate this issue.

- You cannot protect a system from invasion even when your entire armada is in orbit

This issue has been fixed for the 1st update.

- AI suicidal exploration

I'll pass that on to the AI team. Thank you for the feedback!

Cheers,

Like what I hear, top to bottom, should solve quite a few of the nitpicky frustrations with war.