Also how about a trade hero with an another empire as a diplomatic option?

Did you build the academy embassy?

Yeah sometimes can get build late into the game, but that is not my main point, I am not reporting any bugs.

Hm, you should normally (though this isn't always the case) be getting at least one faction-specific hero everytime the academy gives you the opportunity to gain a new hero.

Do you have any mods activated ?

Also how common does this happen, like have you never gotten a faction specific hero ? 

If it truly frustrates you (cuz I don't see the DEV's changing this since a majority of players seem fine with non-faction specific heroes) then you can try the "Endless Heroes Mod" 

It basically gives you all your factions heroes on turn 1. 

The only downside is the upkeep cost in the beginning and that other empires start off with more heroes too 

As for your idea of trading heroes as a diplomatic option, you may want to put that in the Ideas section 

Hope this helped ! 

No, whaaaaat? Did you know I was just playing UE and 1st time I got a selection all of them were Industrialists but not even one of them was UE.

No mods

Bummer, I know.

Yeah probably, I'll check if anyone else has something like it and then I will put an idea myself.

Thanks searched it in steam it seems nice, I will get some achievement that are left and I will start using mods.

Btw you only pay upkeep for heroes ONLY if they are assigned right? Cause it could kill your economy early in game.

Letzt wrote:

No, whaaaaat? Did you know I was just playing UE and 1st time I got a selection all of them were Industrialists but not even one of them was UE.

No mods

Bummer, I know.

Yeah probably, I'll check if anyone else has something like it and then I will put an idea myself.

Thanks searched it in steam it seems nice, I will get some achievement that are left and I will start using mods.

Btw you only pay upkeep for heroes ONLY if they are assigned right? Cause it could kill your economy early in game.

That's really odd, I haven't seen that much when I play but yeah we'll see if Amplitude changes that 

As for the upkeep, I can't really be sure since I tested out the mod a while ago but haven't used it for a while

You should probably run a sandbox test game (just 2 players) and see if during the first 5 turns if it affects upkeep costs 

& of course, glad I could help 

I've noticed when this happens, the AI factions have for some reason claimed your faction heroes before you or the type of ship you're supposed to get doesn't have a faction hero of it. The former happened in my second playthrough, where I saw my neighbor Horatio cruise with a fleet with one of the Vaulter heroes as admiral.

Numinumi wrote:

I've noticed when this happens, the AI factions have for some reason claimed your faction heroes before you or the type of ship you're supposed to get doesn't have a faction hero of it. The former happened in my second playthrough, where I saw my neighbor Horatio cruise with a fleet with one of the Vaulter heroes as admiral.

Yeah exactly that I lived enough to see the same too, a Craver fleet with a Vaulter hero...

I've noticed that this seems mostly the case when you play with factions that are duplicates or custom factions that has the same visuals as one of the other. I'm not 100% sure, but it just seems like while the first hero you get can be a duplicate, the game tries to make the heroes you pick from not duplicates if it can. So in a weird way everything just gets bundled up and mixed. Then I've also had matches it wasn't the case, but it seems to always happen with duplicate visual factions.

I wish that wasn't the case and you were always given a choice of your 3 other faction heroes, even if they might end up as duplicates, while the heroes afterwards are more mixed depending on what you're most likely to get following the scores.

Hero numbers seems about right to me. You can buy a lot off the market, if you want more. They add a lot of micromanagmeent; I'd rather see numbers kept down.