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Academy quest - need to declare war on people I never fight...?

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7 years ago
Jun 19, 2017, 12:10:11 AM

So there's this:



Is this correct? Intentional? Unforseen side effect? Actual bug?


I'm the Sophons, the Empire is on the opposite Academy team, the Riftborn are minding their own business.


The Empire can sit there and block my progress all day because I'm... not at war with the Riftborn?

Without declaring war on the Empire, I can attack the Empire if I declare war on the Riftborn?

I can only progress the Academy quest here by declaring on Kappa, then attacking the person I am not at war with, while ignoring the person I am at war with?


This doesn't seem correct.


Edit: wait, it gets better. See the Shargon / Unfallen ship there? I'm at war with them, but we're on the same Academy team.


So, I declare war on poor Kappa so I can progress the quest. I hit "Attack," but I don't even get the option of choosing who to attack... so yep, instead of attacking the guy on the other team blocking my progress, it automatically attacked the Unfallen ship, despite being on the same Academy team, because of the War status I suppose... never even asking me to confirm that's what I wanted to waste my action on.


So that damn Empire ship is still sitting there with its piddly 1 CP making faces at me and blocking quest progress.




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7 years ago
Jun 21, 2017, 9:23:44 AM

Hi,


You can avoid DoW by hiring some mercenary fleet on the market and putting them on pirates duty. To clean the small fleets that are camping the target system it's working. 

But when the AI start sending big fleets with hero, it'll may be too late to use this tricks. I never saw medium ships to sell in the market but can't say that never happening :)

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7 years ago
Jun 21, 2017, 11:47:44 AM

Oh, I'm sure there's ways to work around the mechanic - I'm just not sure the effect is what's desired. It exposes some conflicting systems when "standard diplomatic status" comes into conflict with "Academy Finale team status." The standard Cold War NCZ shouldn't interfere with the Academy Finale quest - and usually, if cheesing mechanics is the only way to resolve an issue, that's an indication that the issue itself needs to be reworked a little. ;)

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7 years ago
Jun 21, 2017, 1:26:07 PM

I get your point, It was just in case you didn't know about the pirates fleet, cause I thnik excatly like you first time I saw this ;)


Finally, I really liked when that happen to me the first time I've done this quest. I was in a very old alliance with one empire of the other team, so I had to weight what I want, break alliance, start a war (cause any cold war will had lead to peaceful annexion of 3 system of mine, including the one with the academy). So I decided the sneaky approach, to alt my wars against some of ennemy empire in my own team ... personnal taste of course, but I really enjoy it :)

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