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6 years ago
Feb 11, 2019, 7:54:42 AM

Hello,


So... My question regarding this quest is pretty short: is there any spcific way to unlock this quest/hero?

Back in time I've got this quest only once, when it was released. Since then I never encountered prisoner in the space again. Not sure why this one doesn't like me, or my empire. Unfallens are rather cheerful and friendly.


Was looking for the answer around, but didn't find anything satysfying. Some are saying that quest won't appear in every game, others that there is a specific way to unlock it (I thought I have to approach the neutron star). And at this moment I'm here without idea what to do.


Would appreciate any help/thougts/backup.

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6 years ago
Feb 11, 2019, 9:30:04 AM

Hey,


I consider myself kinda expert on that one :D cuz i spent a lot of time questioning other players, devs, checking gamefiles and running autoturn games to understand how the quest works.


First there are two main conditions for it to trigger:

1. Turn 60 or above.

2. Faction has to discover it's first neutron star.


That means if every faction discovered a neutron star before turn 60 it won't trigger.


Also with addition of UC there was a prerequisite added which i believe disables the quest at all if there is UC gameplay affinity in the game due to UC inability to compete for quest winning condition (build 3 system improvements which requires 3 star systems).


What we should do i think is to create thread in game design section and ask devs to rework the quest a bit:

1. Alter triggering conditions. Make it more accessible like Target Locked and Little Grin Man quests or even with fixed conditions like Endless Day quest. For example make it trigger when a player places a (scientific)Behemoth on a neutron star node. That would require Supremacy addon tho, shame, love the idea.

2. Make adjustments so UC could participate. They build several victory wonders in one system why not quest system improvements?

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6 years ago
Feb 11, 2019, 10:24:10 AM

Hello,


thank you for your reply and explanation. I wasn't expect the second condidtion. Was pretty sure it is about something else, but well... It looks like I have to stop exploring galaxy if I want to get this hero then, and hold near my homeworld hoping for not encountering neutron next to me.


About UC, at this moment I'm playing without that expansion, but it looks like that faction cause a lot of troubles since launch (from problematic hacking to different gameplay, and now quest). Also I like your ideas, which would make hero/quest a way more accesable, and won't slow empires growth (Unfallens might not be fast, especially on endless speed but still!), beause at this moment it is literally gamble. 


At this moment I can only play a more like isolationist and make a lot of savegames ;)

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6 years ago
Feb 11, 2019, 11:03:46 AM

Hey,


here is some more of my insights, sorry if it adds another sad pill.


It's actually not worth sitting idle and waiting for the quest. Previously it was pretty much for sure if you discover your first neutron star after turn 60 you get the quest but lately i think some probability was added to it or some hidden mutual exclusion with other quests. Let me explain. I used to set minimum turn condition on turn one and always was able to get it with moddingtools and "reveal all galaxy" command - that since some point not the case anymore. Though quest is still functional cuz i got it twice - once on turn 7 or 8(with my modification) and once on turn 63.


What i recommend you do is set special nodes frequency on low (to lower the chance of early discovery of a neutron star both for you and AI)  and pray you or AI will eventually trigger it - it's not solo but competetive quest what means anyone can trigger it for everyone.


Cheers!

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