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Behemoths: terraforming, reducing anomalies, restoring planets and reconstruction

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6 years ago
Aug 29, 2018, 4:06:09 PM

Hi,


Read lots of doubts about this options after Behemoths. Made a game with settings to give a little test at this. It was with patch 1.3.9, so not sure if it will be changed, but sounds a definitive version. Don't blame me if something changes ;D


Here you can found video versions:


Actually there are two behemoth techs in science tree, that allows you to unlock modules related to terraforming, reducing anomalies and fixing depleted or destroyed planets. Here the techs and the modules tooltip:


 

 


As you see, both gives modules to behemoths, that you can put into behemots in ship desing screen, as usual:



The difference from basic to advanced versions, is that the basic version only allows you to terraform and reduce anomalies, while the advanced does it better and also allows you to fix destroyed and depleted planets.

Both have industry values. essentially it works like putting the option in your queue: every turn the industry piles, and when you got enough the planet is terraformed, or whatever you were doing. Here have in mind that industry is cumulative, both from putting various modules in one behemoth and from putting various behemoths over a system, so all behemoths over same system will do the same action (I wasn't abel to terraform one planet with a behemoth and another with a second one at same time, suspect this is intended, wich is not a problem for me, as it really may be in your advantage: you terraform quickly)


Now to the actions, from top to bottom:


Terraformation:


Essentially you can terraform any planet you have the tech unlocked. Have in mind that to terraform with a behemoth you'll need at least two techs:

- The one that unlocks terraformation modules:

- The one that you would use habitually to terraform the planet.


There are also some limitation to planets that you can terraform:

- You cannot terraform planets in other player's systems. If you're asking about player having an outpost in same system, I could never test,

- You cannot terraform colonized planets, even in your own system.

Said in the other way, you can terraform:

- Any planet on neutral system.

- Non-colonized planets in your own systems.


Here I'll go with some screenshots:



In this one you can see the options to terraform (orange square), reduce anomalies and reconstruction. they're all on the upper row (yellow square).


If you close up to the system, you'll find the option to terraform (sorry, the screenshot is from another system, but makes the idea very clear):



Just click over the option you want and terraformation will start.


Reason why this option can be greyed out, are (consistent with said previously):

- Colonized planets on your own systems.

- Planets in other player's system.

- You don't have the tech to terraform the planet.


About the terraforming chart, this is the same as you would use in a "normal" terraformation from system view.


And lastly, to terraform your own colonized planets:




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Aug 29, 2018, 4:28:27 PM

Anomaly Reduction


Here is almost the same as terraformation. you'll need to unlock the necessary tech to reduce the anomaly, and the behemoth module. Here to make things easyer, you can reduce anomalies on your own colonized planets too.


Here a vision of the option to reduce an anomaly:



Reasons why this button can be greyed out are:

- You don't have the needed tech to reduce the anomaly.

- Anomaly is in another player's system


Just to put a mixed example of anomaly reduction and terraformation:



Here you can see that you can terraform non-colonized planets, but the colonized one has the option greyed out. Also you can reduce anomalies everywhere (sadly no anomalies on the colonized one, only in the previous screenshot :..( )


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Aug 29, 2018, 4:38:15 PM

Cancelling Depletion points:


Well, essentially this allows you to get rid of noxious Cravers effects on planets. Her you only need the behemoth module and tech, this is a passive action and doesn't have an specific button.



As you can see in this screenshot, I just captured a system with a planet depleted by Cravers. It has FIDSY penaties. Then I parked two behemoths over it, just look:



As the tooltip says the planet will be restored in 3 turns, so cancelling all nosious Cravers effects.


Some things to have in mind:

- When a behemoth is parked it will passively restore all planets in the system at once.

- As long as you don't get rid of Cravers, they'll continue to deplete the planet, so undoing the behemoth work. Depending on how much modules you have and how much Cravers pop is, it can only slow the depletion.

- Normally is lonmger than 3 turns. As told before, this game have settings created sepcifically to test this.


If you're playing with Cravers, have in mind what @Groo pointed about @LordYanaek discussion. Cravers have an special terraformation module, that instead of restoring planets, gives you 0.5 science per depletion point. This module is also the one you get if you build a custom faction with Cravers "slave divers" affinity. so, no restoration for Cravers, with IMO makes sense, as it will be like cheating. here the module description in its specific tech:



And now for the last one...


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Aug 29, 2018, 4:47:02 PM

Planetary Reconstruction:


Oh, look:



Some ********* hit my system Placidus with an obliterator shot and destroyed everything. How sad...

But wait, after the destruction two behemoths come here...



And they got an option to restore the destroyed planets.

Have in mind that it also piles industry like terraforming and reducing anomalies. And in same way stacked modules in same behemoth or various behemoths in same node will sum their industry.

Add to this that this is an active action and you'll have to restore planets one by one.

To do this basically you only need the tehc to unlock the module plus a propeerly equipped behemoth.

this way you can restore destroyed planets in your own systems or in neutral ones. AFAIK you cannot restore planets in other player's systems.


Let's click the button...




And Placidus II is restored. 

Have in mind that all restored planets will be lave ones, so if you don't like you probably want to terraform them (wich lucky can be done with same behemoth).


One important note, if you look at this screenshot:



Yes, unique planets like Harrow, Auriga, home planets, cannot be reconstructed.


Think that's all for now. If you found any mistake or test something I didn't think of, please post here.

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6 years ago
Sep 6, 2018, 10:12:13 AM

Hey thanks, I haven't gotten that far yet and currently I play as Vodyani. You made me want to play another faction.

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Sep 7, 2018, 5:45:15 AM

Good work. For to complete this strategy guide, what is about research-boosting and special nodes modules? Any reason why you decided to no list (apart from the headline) here?

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Sep 10, 2018, 8:40:29 AM
Groo wrote:

Good work. For to complete this strategy guide, what is about research-boosting and special nodes modules? Any reason why you decided to no list (apart from the headline) here?

The reason is that I saw some confusion about behemth terraforming/reduction/reconstruction/undepleting mechanics. People seems to be ook with other modules on sci quadrant, but as it seems a reasonable petition, here we go:


Tis is a list of the modules that can give you especial effects from special nodes:


  


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As you can see basically there are two kinds of modules: the first row give you science and discounts to specific quadrants once orbiting an special node. The second gives you bonus ti DSI (no ffod or industry) or strategic resources.

To get these bonus, basically what you have to do is only equip them on a behemoth and orbit a special node with it, then you'll start receiving the bonus. Have in mind that some bonus like sci discounts and strategic depend on node type, so look at what nodes are around you and plan accordingly.

As hint for new players: advanced analyzer is a very good way to overcome resources shortage, specially depending on how lucky you were with galaxy gen or what settings you're using.


There's still lot more with behemoths like military or mining, but not being them the objective of this guide, I won't extend much. Have in mind that I used mining,but I have not much experience on this, so if someone wants to post it...

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Sep 14, 2018, 7:14:20 PM

What I didn't know, yet, is Cravers do have a +0.5 science (at least on normal game speed) points per depletion point as long as behemoth orbits system module instead of 2 depletion points cancelled per turn. Worth to add this information within your depletion points explanantions?


Thanks to Lord Yanaek who clarified about in steam discussion -> First time with Cravers

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6 years ago
Sep 15, 2018, 9:00:39 AM

Thanks for pointing this. I've just updated the post about cancelling depletion points.

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6 years ago
Sep 25, 2018, 7:09:14 PM

I wish Behemoth could cool Lava planets to a barren state, so that you don't always end up on the industry side of terraformation tree.


Bonus question: are gas giants always restored to the same gas giant type?

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6 years ago
Sep 25, 2018, 7:42:38 PM
Sublustris wrote:

Bonus question: are gas giants always restored to the same gas giant type?

I never tried it... My homework for next game, just now I'm again trying to get EL pending achievements.

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6 years ago
Jan 16, 2019, 8:17:49 PM

Turns out Gas Giants can't be restored. Massive oversight?

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Jan 16, 2019, 8:39:33 PM
Sublustris wrote:

Turns out Gas Giants can't be restored. Massive oversight?

Oh. Thanks for the test. My bad, I forgot compltely and was in other stuff

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Jan 16, 2019, 9:10:11 PM

Sorry, my brain is tired this evening. They are restorable with Climate Engineering. I remembered I did it two times in Supremacy beta and got a Gas Hot type. So my original question was if it's always restored to Hot, and we just checked with two more planets, they too become Gas Hot. 

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Jan 17, 2019, 7:31:01 AM

Aha!

IIRC everything is restored to lava

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