Galaxy events/crisis and end game quests

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Late game upsets are definitely a feature worth adding. I would particularly want to have them depend on your empire's (or that of AI) development path, e.g. out of control AI for science heavy empires, experimental and utterly devastating weapon ending up in the hands of pirates for militarists, etc. 

I was thinking of something similar, but to be honest, i'm hoping for a mid-game crysis that pays homage to Mass Effect; that means Reapers.

The idea is throughout the game, signs of ancient lost civilizations and signs of battlefields will be found, as well as inert technology that has never been seen before. The more signs of such past that are discovered and the more research you do on these relics of history, the more you will uncover about an ancient cycle of extinction. The more you learn, the better prepared you can be (as well as other rival factions) to intercept the Reaper invasion.

This plan means involving the player in politics more. Depending on the proof you (or other factions) gathered, you can team up with factions which were hostile against you to face a common foe. This also means that sharing technologies and resources might prove beneficial to you if it means repelling the Reapers with the help of others. You can however also take advantage of the situation to bring them to a swifter end if you so choose.

This crysis scenario would only play out on huge galaxies, since many systems are required for a faithful representation of the invasion, with a minimum of 6 factions preferably. The more factions in an alliance against the Reapers, the greater the bonuses to production and dust, as well as reduced upkeep for fleets/fortresses/defenses. This prompts you to make friends as fast as possible to have a chance of repelling the sentient machines.

Now I don't remember if there's wormhole portals in the game, but if there are, they could be hijacked by the Reapers to speed up their invasion. Ground combat would consist of Reaper forces, much like the husks in the original Mass Effect, with a few generic types during the start of the invasion and later on with husks that resemble fallen troops of the species of the fallen systems. Factions defending against the Reaper invasion on their systems would get a defense boost according to Reaper research, which is earned both passively by fighting them, and actively by initiating research unlocked through exploration and, well, combat.

There would certainly be a lot of details to iron out, as well as probable copyright issues along the route, but what do you guys think?

Yeap, in many strategy games the end becomes very tedious, so having something like this to make it more interesting iver very much welcome! 

Also, by making moderately large set of major random events will also increases the replay-ability (how do you even spell that?) and thus value of the game.

HraTaika wrote:

Yeap, in many strategy games the end becomes very tedious, so having something like this to make it more interesting iver very much welcome! 

Also, by making moderately large set of major random events will also increases the replay-ability (how do you even spell that?) and thus value of the game.

Yes, but Civ5 with add-ons could create your own crisis, i mean you could create it by yourself. 4 example. I was crisised in upper-mid game(on biggest Earth map), when i completely annihilated 2 emipers and create empire wides from Alaska to Southern Argentina , and you know what? My empire fell under its own wheight in crisis on 60+ turns, until i assumed Order and gives Acceptance from Factories.

I say it why - you could create so as crisis so as renessaince, so as world-wide so as personal ones. And this is good tool for the in-game balance, to support lacked of control or weaked by wars or bad infrostructure control (like Hissho in Endless Space - worst AI ever). You see balanced empires? Make them suffer. Created personal or all-galaxy crisis and do not let crisis affect the weakened empire in order to create tension and conflicts on the galactic map

Glad my idea find a way into this topic 

Hope that gonna be add, that could be great we got crisis with not only the military answer 

And with divergent ending 

In addition, I  add a link to my thread to give some example/other idea 

https://www.games2gether.com/endless-space-2/forum/66-game-design/thread/20299-crisis-for-an-endgame-with-spice

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From the looks of the Pathfinder Trailer, and ES2's Academy chain quest, the end-game crisis is easy to whip up narratively, just make it about that conflict and write a bit of faction-flavoured text to explain why you cannot remain on the sidelines. Involve the Lost one way or another.

From a gameplay perspective though, that's a bit more complicated. ES2 cannot replicate Stellaris doomstack-based crises, at least not in a fun way I don't think.

The issue of other victory conditions (looking at you, Economic victory, the ironically cheapest way to win a game) happening long before that end-game event could also be tackled. Or the trigger in general. Too early and it will frustrating to deal with. Too late and nobody will see it. Quite like the current cinematics after the completion of the academy chain quest.

The idea is good, and I do believe ES2 would greatly benefit from it. But the execution would take quite a bit of thinking to get right.

I'd like to see more of this myself. Space is full of mystery. Rather than just finding curiosities and items and tactics on planetary anomalies, it would be wonderful to find things that start galaxy-changing quests, lost empires or ancient wonders.