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7 years ago
May 3, 2018, 11:57:54 PM

I KNOW IT IS LONG BUT GIVE IT A TRY


Introduction:

I would like to thank the developers of this game for making such an immersive and original story.  Especially the music and the background of each faction, I am also happy to see how they are bringing the “spy gameplay” with our upcoming spy faction.  I know one small idea can’t not decide what will happen but I would like that SOME DEVELOPER READ THIS, and if in any way what I write in here could help I would be more than happy with it.

Regarding the spy faction it has been decided that it will be a wraith theme of ancient aliens before the endless, who I suppose kept themselves hidden from them as they could not compete with the technology of the endless at the time, being the watchers of all this history from the start. All this would be a save choice for their story adding more revelations of what actually happened in the past.

One interesting mechanic that I am sure I am not the only one who has realized of is that we have 6 ideologies or political parties and probably the number of factions planned will be 12, as it is the maximum number of players that can be on a game. This means we will have 2 major factions of each ideology but with different gameplay and mechanics.

Scientist: Sophons and Vaulters.

Pacifists: Lumeris and Unfallen.

Industrialists: UE and Riftborn.

Ecologists: Horatio and ?

Militarists: Cravers and ?

Religious: Vodyani and ?

Which means that our next faction will be one of these 3 ideologies. Militarists would be against the spy theme so I would leave it out, making the wraith faction either ecologist or religious.

Could be religious as they will probably make a good use of influence in their gameplay (we still don’t know how the spy mechanics will be). Or they could be ecologist as they stayed hidden all this time in their small world as they observed everything happen and could be more story related.

I would prefer them as an ecologist faction as this means we will have another 2 factions focused on militaristic and religious mechanics as I will explain

The Ardent Legion (Demon Faction)

I know the name sounds a bit generic….it could be changed of course…If there is something that I have seen missing in the endless universe is the presence of a demon faction (I am not very fan of it but it could add a different flavor), we have a minor faction in Endless Legend that resembles demons and there are also “The Lost” who are described as “Ancient Demons” by Isyara. We have seen factions created by the Endless like the Cravers, factions shaped indirectly by them like the Vodyani, born after the time of the endless like the Sophons and now before the endless with the new spy faction. But what we do not have is a faction created by the Lost or actually created by the endless trying to imitate the Lost.

It could be that the Endless created this new faction in order to imitate the Lost after they were destroyed, They will look like the Lost but more fire related instead of dust, this will be the militaristic faction of course as they try to take over the Endless as soon as they discover the truth. Instead of being destroyed by the endless (as what almost happened to the cravers) the demon faction that I will call “The Ardent” were actually sealed, and why not? Inside the stars?

Another thing that I have noticed is that we have different types of stars in the game which establish the temperature and biodiversity of the planets of the system, but beside that we don’t use them for anything else, that’s why I would like to add a mechanic with this faction related to the stars of the systems. As they are fire and light related they could have different bonuses depending of the type of the stars by creating altars in memory of the Lost and later being able to change the type of the stars. Bonuses could be not only for dust and industry but also men power as they are a militaristic faction, maybe fight in system with new stars would give them more offensive power and old stars more defense etc. As the government type they could be a democracy or a republic as being another dictatorship would be too generic for this type of faction, and even they are militaristic they don’t have this hunger of power, instead they could be seen as “war unfallen,” but is just a comparison. Also a new tech for all factions could be added in this patch like a dyson sphere so all factions could use the “star power mechanic”


The Cultist of the Eternal End    

There has been many unique factions in this game but one of the most mind blowing ones for me was the cultist, as soon I saw them I realized how original this games are. I can see many rejecting this idea as most people would prefer to see new factions and we already have the Vaulters as a connection to endless legend, and as for robots we have the riftborn (although they are not real robots but concepts inside a vessel). But I really would vote for the cultist, they are not only one of the most original and mysterious factions in the endless universe but that are religious( which is the last political party to fill in) AND probably one of the only people that could have survived in Auriga(They were also created by the community). Instead of leaving the planet as the Vaulters did they could have chosen to send a signal into space. Other “butler robots” of the endless could have been able to read this signal from a distant planet but with the technology to go to space and therefore “converted to this religion (or malfunction that the cultist are)”. They could focus on stealing population as their main mechanic from other major and minor empires and getting bonuses for how many different populations are in your empire. They could also “convert population” from inside other faction, like making drop the happiness and influence of a system of an enemy faction until they rebel. The cultist want to erase everything related to the endless not only as a malfunction in their system but as an opportunity to erase the past making them the perfect antagonist for the Vodyani.

I know that with many ideas out there mine can’t be for sure noticed but I would like to see how the community react to it and if any developer can take anything from it. Thank you for your unique games Amplitude I will be always grateful.


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7 years ago
May 7, 2018, 1:15:12 AM

In the naming process for the new faction, I came up with one, called Uthark Abrax, that I believe would fit nicely with your idea. I love the idea of conversion from within and population theft. I too was a big fan of the idea of the cultists in EL, and would love to see some more lore about their "malfunction" and I propose it could be related to one of these ancient aliens "reprogramming" as a way of mental hijacking.


As a long time fan of Ghost in the Shell, I believe the story of The Puppetmaster could be used as some level of inspiration for this hijacking phenomenon and the process from which such cultural rebellions are born through a sort of reality hacking. My faction suggestion seems to revolve around the idea of Rune Magic, Reality Tunnels, and Secrets Hidden in Plain Sight. Perhaps we could even collab a bit to bring such ideas to greater life?


https://www.games2gether.com/endless-space-2/contests/148-espionage-faction-naming-contest/propositions/30468-uthark-abrax?page=1


Let me know what you think.

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7 years ago
May 18, 2018, 9:17:47 PM

Yes thank you for your reply to my post, I was actually just touching a bit the spy faction as I focused a bit more in the future factions after this one, hoping Amplitude could make it to 12 factions. Regarding the spy factions I haven’t focused too much as the choices of the community have been the very same I would have preferred (alien, ancient, shadow wraith) and even the icon, although it looks a bit similar to the one of the sisters of mercy…. and for the ship design either crystal or monolith seems to be winning which I find appropriate. I see you focused a lot in the story, which shows how much into this you are; and I do found quite interesting the rune magic theme, maybe this could be the source of invisibility of these wraith. As for the name I haven’t bothered too much after seen the names that the community is creating…..I do hope that Amplitude decides for one original at the and as for “Abrax” seems original and with a meaning behind it with luck they noticed and decide at the end for something close to it. I am very much welcoming this new faction with luck for the end of this year although is still in the very first phase and I am glad that someone liked at least half of my idea, I really have high expectations for the next two factions after this one, Endless legend make it up to 11 factions I see no reason for this endless space 2 to make it up to 12 with how much more polished this game is, I know it would be too nice to have the cultist in this game but what else can I do but to try to open a door for it. Again thank you.    

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