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UMBRAL CHOIR VOTE 4: LEADER NAME

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We're back with the next vote for the Umbral Choir. If you've been living on an asteroid for the past few weeks, head over to our dev blog to find out more about the creation process of this upcoming espionage-oriented faction!


Last week, you selected Penumbra as the name of the expansion, in a landslide victory!




This week, we're asking you what the leader of the faction should be named. That's the creature just above this line. Read on below to learn a little more about it:


After shattering into countless echoes, the Umbral Choir encountered its first experience of dissonance as the different harmonies of its composition gained a limited form of independence. Instead of a singular consciousness, the wraith-like creature found its perceptions refracted through a plethora of viewpoints and voices, creating a cognitive experience not unlike a hymn sung by a choir. Among this choir, one voice was the most clear, the most lucid, and this echo came to be the de facto leader of the entity, although it should always be remembered that the Umbral Choir is a single, shattered mind.


This vote will run throughout the holidays and until January, so you have plenty of time to think about it. Let us know what your favorite is!

6 765 800

g2g pts

Orchestrator Solmire Prima
Winner

Orchestrator Solmire Prima

6 728 700

g2g pts

The First Refrain

The First Refrain

5 875 800

g2g pts

The Voice of Many

The Voice of Many

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6 years ago
Jan 3, 2019, 12:55:12 AM

I was for "The First Refrain" though these were both my top two anyway. My thought is that the naming that the race uses is consistant, as long as it seems like an actual naming convention and not a patchwork of things I am happy.

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6 years ago
Jan 3, 2019, 2:00:18 AM
ChosenSewen wrote:

I didn't got an idea behind "The First Refrain", but IMGO Orchestrator Solmire Prima sounds both important and imposing. Glad its won, but i won't be against idea of combining all of those into a giant sentence of a title like its been suggested.

In my opinion, Orchestrator Solmire Prima sounds overbearing and pretentious.  I vastly preferred The First Refrain.

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6 years ago
Jan 3, 2019, 2:06:02 AM
ValhallasAshes wrote:
ChosenSewen wrote:

I didn't got an idea behind "The First Refrain", but IMGO Orchestrator Solmire Prima sounds both important and imposing. Glad its won, but i won't be against idea of combining all of those into a giant sentence of a title like its been suggested.

In my opinion, Orchestrator Solmire Prima sounds overbearing and pretentious.  I vastly preferred The First Refrain.

This.

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6 years ago
Jan 3, 2019, 8:14:31 AM
ValhallasAshes wrote:

In my opinion, Orchestrator Solmire Prima sounds overbearing and pretentious.  I vastly preferred The First Refrain.

This

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6 years ago
Jan 3, 2019, 11:05:33 AM
ChosenSewen wrote:

I didn't got an idea behind "The First Refrain", but IMGO Orchestrator Solmire Prima sounds both important and imposing. Glad its won, but i won't be against idea of combining all of those into a giant sentence of a title like its been suggested.

This!

;D

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6 years ago
Jan 4, 2019, 1:43:49 AM

Surely with a vote this close we can make a COMPROMISE. Like, Solmire Prima, The First Refrain. Prima kinda sounds like "Prime" which is kinda like "First", right?

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6 years ago
Jan 4, 2019, 1:49:55 AM

Seeing as the votes were so close, I'd like to see a compromise, especially if it omits the word Orchestrator.

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6 years ago
Jan 4, 2019, 2:36:00 AM

I have voted a couple of times before and my choice didn't win. Yet I never wrote a post to suggest to change the result, nor did it come to my mind to do it.

I think there is a bunch of people here who doesn't understand how this voting thing works.

I'll give you a hint: It doesn't matter how close the result is, there is only one winner.

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6 years ago
Jan 4, 2019, 6:39:58 AM
redsimonDE wrote:

I'll give you a hint: It doesn't matter how close the result is, there is only one winner.

Yeah, you've made the game worse for 2/3 of its players, you can be proud of yourself now.

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6 years ago
Jan 4, 2019, 10:58:15 AM
Sublustris wrote: Yeah, you've made the game worse for 2/3 of its players, you can be proud of yourself now.

Now that’s a rather disingenuous statement, I highly doubt it will make the game worse in any real way for players, I highly doubt even that even 5% of the player base could name all the faction leaders from memory.


You falsely conflate the percentage of votes to the percentage of players that want only that name, you even false conflate the people that voted for the first option as only wanting that one I expect many (like me) would be fine with any result. For reference option one had 507 votes, Now I don’t have the exact figures but ES2 is estimated to have between 500,000 and 1M players. Which put players that voted for option one at a tiny 0.1014% at the very most or 0.0507% at the least which is a very tiny amount of the player base.


I will say that this vote is interesting in how close all the options are and maybe a compromise may happen, (I myself would love the ridiculous name of The First Refrain Orchestrator Solmire Prima, the Voice of Many) But poor behaviour in the comments from people whose’ option did not win does not increase the chance of this (Or any change you are hoping for) happening, constructive ones (which I’m glad there are some) may though.


The platform is called Games 2 Gether after all, attacking people has no place here, only constructive discussion does.

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6 years ago
Jan 4, 2019, 11:23:56 AM

I think there is a bunch of people here who doesn't understand how this voting thing works.

Yes, that was very costructive.

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6 years ago
Jan 4, 2019, 11:38:53 AM

A re-vote would be unfair to the people who voted for Orchestrator Solmire Prima. It clearly won the most votes, and that's what counts.

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6 years ago
Jan 4, 2019, 4:00:49 PM
mbails wrote:

Seeing as the votes were so close, I'd like to see a compromise, especially if it omits the word Orchestrator.

Personally, if anything, I would like to see "Solmire Prima" omitted. That is the part of the name that feels out of place.

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6 years ago
Jan 4, 2019, 7:23:12 PM
Leafy503 wrote:

A re-vote would be unfair to the people who voted for Orchestrator Solmire Prima. It clearly won the most votes, and that's what counts.

It actually had fewer votes, but more gamerpoints. 

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6 years ago
Jan 4, 2019, 10:04:36 PM
WhiteCorsair wrote:
Leafy503 wrote:

A re-vote would be unfair to the people who voted for Orchestrator Solmire Prima. It clearly won the most votes, and that's what counts.

It actually had fewer votes, but more gamerpoints. 

This reminds me of the complaints about a different election. Are you trying to get political here? I hope not.


Once again let me explain the voting system that applies here: It doesn't matter how many people voted for a choice, only the G2G Points are counted.

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6 years ago
Jan 5, 2019, 7:10:23 AM
redsimonDE wrote:
WhiteCorsair wrote:
Leafy503 wrote:

A re-vote would be unfair to the people who voted for Orchestrator Solmire Prima. It clearly won the most votes, and that's what counts.

It actually had fewer votes, but more gamerpoints. 

This reminds me of the complaints about a different election. Are you trying to get political here? I hope not.


Once again let me explain the voting system that applies here: It doesn't matter how many people voted for a choice, only the G2G Points are counted.

No, I wasn't trying to get political, I was informing a previous poster of the nature of the vote.
You know, what you did after the fact, but with less redundancy & insinuation. =)

But I digress.


Focusing back on the naming convention, I'm reminded of a game called Starsiege. Some of you might remember it. The antagonist of that game was Prometheus, a diabolical artificial intelligence who bore numerous honorific and derogetory naming conventions. His creators named him Prometheus, his legions of murderous machines called him First Thought // Giver of Will, and his victims called him the Dark Intellect.


Our vote choices here remind me of that dynamic. Something the devs could reflect on. On my own reflection, I'm suddenly at ease with Orchestrator Solmire Prima. The First Refrain, Voice of Many.

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6 years ago
Jan 6, 2019, 5:28:07 AM
WhiteCorsair wrote:

well, bleah.


Electoral Collage bungs it up again.

You might not be far off from the truth: Ochestrator Solmire Prima may have had more G2G points, but those G2G points are awarded to votes and ideas on this website based on your profile score. Thus people with low profile scores have less weight to their vote.


 So it may well have "lost the popular vote" for all we know LOL.


Edit: Nevermind I just looked at the votes/g2g score breakdown on the main post and see you're exactly right. Refrain did win the popular vote!

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6 years ago
Jan 7, 2019, 2:57:09 AM
Magnnus wrote:
mbails wrote:

Seeing as the votes were so close, I'd like to see a compromise, especially if it omits the word Orchestrator.

Personally, if anything, I would like to see "Solmire Prima" omitted. That is the part of the name that feels out of place.

We voted on a naming system for the heroes.  "Solmire Prima" fits this naming system.  I feel like the others are out of place due to using a seperate naming convention.  Had we chosen a different naming convention for the heroes, the other names might have fit more.


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6 years ago
Jan 7, 2019, 9:03:22 AM
BeatYourHeadIn wrote:
WhiteCorsair wrote:

well, bleah.


Electoral Collage bungs it up again.

You might not be far off from the truth: Ochestrator Solmire Prima may have had more G2G points, but those G2G points are awarded to votes and ideas on this website based on your profile score. Thus people with low profile scores have less weight to their vote.


 So it may well have "lost the popular vote" for all we know LOL.


Edit: Nevermind I just looked at the votes/g2g score breakdown on the main post and see you're exactly right. Refrain did win the popular vote!

Good for Refrain that it won this imaginary vote.

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