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4 years ago Mar 25,2021, 13:59:40 PM

Humankind Release Moved to August 2021

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When we announced Humankind, we often stressed that this was the dream game Amplitude was founded for. We were overjoyed by the positive reception our dream saw, many players expressing their excitement for a new entry into the historical 4X genre. Yet we knew Humankind was an ambitious dream, so we looked for help from our eager community. 


Through the OpenDev program, you have given us invaluable feedback on the game. While Humankind is already a great game, many of you think it could be even better, and after analyzing all your great feedback, we realized that we could make even further improvements to make Humankind the best game that it can be. These improvements take time, however, so we have decided to move the release date. 


Humankind will release on August 17th, 2021.


This will give us time to further polish the game for a great day one experience, address the feedback from the OpenDev scenarios, and keep working with our community to improve the game. We want to thank you all for your passion for our dream, the feedback you have given, and the support for this decision many of you have already expressed: 


Hello everyone! 


In the weeks since the Lucy OpenDev, we've been reading a lot of feedback. While many players told us they see great potential in Humankind, they also offered a lot of constructive criticism, and often expressed concern if the game could live up to this potential in the time until release. 

After taking stock of your feedback, of where we are with the game, and where we want it to be when we release, we have decided to postpone the release until August. We agree with you all, the game will be incredible with a little extra time, and we think we are lucky to have passionate fans like you who support us up in that decision. 

At times like these, I am also reminded that we made the right choice when joining SEGA, who has been incredibly supportive of this decision. They believe in Humankind as much as we do, and they have been a great partner in realizing our vision of the game. 

Thank you all for your support. 


Cheers, 

Spacetroll 



We are immensely grateful to all our passionate players who gave the game a try and let us know what they thought, what they liked, and what they didn’t like. Your feedback is crucial to improving the game, and to thank everybody who has shown us their trust by pre-ordering, we are adding two more Avatars to the preorder bonus: Lucy, and Edgar Allan Poe. 


Once upon a midnight dreary,/ As I pondered weak and weary,/ 

If I have more time to burn,/ Proclaimed Lucy: One more turn!


So, what is all the feedback we are talking about? What did our players tell us about their experience with the OpenDev, and what are we doing to address their concerns? We’ll be working to address pacing, balancing, diplomacy, accessibility, and AI (among others), but let’s take a closer look at some of the most common points of feedback and our plans for them: 


  • Pacing and Balancing:These were two of the most discussed topics in the OpenDev Feedback, and the general consensus was that the game progresses too quickly, and all basic resources are too abundant. Here are some examples of what we are working on to address these issues: 
    • The New Growth System: Since the growth model we tested in the Lucy OpenDev (based on current population and population capacity of the city) turned out to be difficult to understand and balance, and potentially frustrating with newly founded cities, we've swapped back to a growth rate based on surplus food. Of course, this still needs to be tested and balanced. 
    • Food and Influence in the Neolithic Era: Since many players performed quite a bit better than expected in the Neolithic era, we're rebalancing the food and influence gains and are keeping an eye on this with our internal tests. 
    • Neolithic Era Variety: Many players found that the Neolithic era lacked variety, so we want to implement additional narrative events. 
    • Research Costs: We will rework the research costs of technology to create a smoother progression that should roughly keep pace with the intended era progression. 
    • Stability: Stability should be a limiting factor on City and Empire growth that creates interesting situations for the player to tackle, but in Lucy OpenDev many players found it too easy to reach a point where they could ignore stability. We’re examining and rebalancing the various factors of stability to reach a point where it can create interesting challenges without being punishing or frustrating. 
    • Money and Influence: As many players found that as the game progressed they stockpiled an abundance of Money and Influence with little to spend it on, we are working to balance the income and spending of these resources.
    • Market and Research Quarters: Market and Research Quarters were often seen as not worthwhile compared to additional Farmers or Makers Quarters, so we want to improve their value compared to these.  
    • Cultures: As expected of such a test, some of the Cultures in the game emerged as particularly strong, some to the point of overshadowing other cultures. We’re working to address this by rebalancing their Legacy Traits, Emblematic Quarters, and Emblematic Units. Most Emblematic Quarters will now also be limited in number per territory to preserve their uniqueness and avoid direct competition with generic quarters. 
    • City and Army Cap: To strike a better balance between size and number of both cities and armies, we are working on imposing a limit on the number of both, after which players would incur penalties. 
    • Sieges: Many players found that it was too easy to conquer the cities of other players or Independent People, and we are looking into how to address this. 
    • Era Star Requirements: With all the other rebalancing, we are also keeping an eye on era star requirements to adjust them if necessary. 
  • Diplomacy:While a lot of OpenDev players liked the underlying system of Diplomacy in Humankind, many also found it confusing due to the interface and feedback. Here are a few points we are working on: 
    • Diplomacy notifications: We are rewriting many of the notifications, grievances, demands, and surrender terms to make it clearer who did what. 
    • Improved Dialogue Flow: We're improving the avatar dialog flow to reduce the number and duration of pauses, so it flows more naturally. 
    • AI Attitude Changes: We are also working to clarify the "mood messages" when AI change their attitude towards you with additional text. 
    • Trade View: We're still working to polish the trade view in the Diplomacy screen, so you get a better understanding of your trade network, including incoming and outgoing trade routes. 
    • User Experience Flow and Feedback: We're working to improve the clarity of the UX in the diplomacy menu, for example clearly highlighting when an AI has accepted or rejected a treaty. 
  • Onboarding:Some of Humankind’s systems were difficult to grasp for players, especially new players, so we are hard at work on the onboarding experience, including: 
    • In-game Tutorial Videos: A set of short videos explaining basic concepts, accessible through an in-game menu. 
    • Tooltip Polish: We're working to improve the readability and clarity of the tooltips. 
    • Hints: We'd like to have a better hint system to help players figure out good strategies, for example suggesting useful Infrastructures to build. 
  • User Interface/Experience:We're working to improve the interface and user experience in various areas: 
    • Territory names: To help players locate events and demands on the map, we are going to add names to territories. Trade routes passing through uncontrolled territory will also create a label showing the name and number of trade routes. 
    • Fame Objective Pop-ups: When you get close to achieving an Era star, your progress will be shown on the main screen so you can easily keep track of your objectives without checking a separate screen. 
    • Notifications: As many players found that the messages in the notification ribbon did not contain enough information, we are including more dynamic information in them, for example in which category a star has been earned. 
    • Management Screens: We're still polishing the city management and battle menus. 
    • Ideology Changes: We’re working on a clearer display of the ideology changes and its effects in the Civics menu and events. 
    • Splitting regions: We are working on an option to detach territories from a city. 
    • Battle Prediction: We'd like to improve the battle prediction to not rely solely on the relative unit strength. 



As you can see, we got a lot of feedback from the different OpenDev scenarios, in particular the Lucy OpenDev. Participation was great, so we received not only a lot of detailed, constructive feedback in our forum, but also valuable data from the survey. You certainly pushed Humankind as far as you could, as you can see from the stats below: 




Of course, as we continue to work on the game, we may want another round of feedback from our passionate players, so keep your eyes peeled for future opportunities to try the game! 


UPDATE: Our Studio Head Romain has confirmed that we are aiming to launch the next OpenDev around the original release date of April 22nd. We will release a blog with further details on when, where, and how to participate once the specifics have been settled.



The Amplitude Team 

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4 years ago
Apr 6, 2021, 2:03:38 PM

The Lucy OpenDev is not available at the moment, but we're aiming for the end of April with the next OpenDev (same eras as Lucy, but with a lot of improvements and balance work already implemented). We'll have a separate blog about that once we nail down the details.

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4 years ago
Apr 2, 2021, 9:20:14 PM

I wouldn't say that Amplitude calls betas 'OpenDev'. Their OpenDev is a bit more strict than a generic beta would be, it's a small project carved out of the whole game to test and balance with aid of community very particular aspects of the game. I'd say that it is quite different from current state of 'beta', which became a PR stunt with very little focus on actual feedback. IMO, judging by what devs said on stream and what appears in the blog posts (which, yes, I agree can also be just a PR-talk) it's opposite for OpenDev, that is aimed to figure out what works and in an auxiliary way is used for marketing.

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4 years ago
Apr 1, 2021, 3:29:07 AM
Run705 wrote:

I'm quite new to the community and I'm a bit curious, is the beta or alpha (can't remember) still open? I pre-ordered HumanKind, but perhaps I was a little too late? I just wish for confirmation, please and thank you. 

First of all welcome!


Sadly the beta or as Amplitude calls them Opendev was closed at the end of december, they sent out a patch that deleted the game files, but there is some good news, they are talking about having another one some time around the previous release date April 22nd.

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4 years ago
Apr 1, 2021, 12:31:00 AM

I'm quite new to the community and I'm a bit curious, is the beta or alpha (can't remember) still open? I pre-ordered HumanKind, but perhaps I was a little too late? I just wish for confirmation, please and thank you. 

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4 years ago
Mar 30, 2021, 3:34:45 AM

I'm sad about the delay but a great game is time and effort put into it so I'm happy to wait for a great game. hopefully we get more open dev to pass the time

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4 years ago
Mar 29, 2021, 10:28:48 AM

i really would like to see some of the later eras because some features like planes and bigger naval battles could be in focus then

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4 years ago
Mar 25, 2021, 8:39:28 PM
Kubusta wrote:

I understand the game gets delayed, but I don't understand why you didn't announce it earlier when you had known it was gonna happen..

You claim that you care about your community, but this approach is not a good example...

I hope it will be worth it, though I am sad it was not communicated better..

good luck anyways!

They didn't annoince it earlier because they weren't sure when it would be released. They needed to give a new date.

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4 years ago
Mar 28, 2021, 10:36:35 AM
The-Cat-o-Nine-Tales wrote:
Neolithic Era Variety: Many players found that the Neolithic era lacked variety, so we want to implement additional narrative events. 

Would you mind expanding on that?  I'm really curious, what people thought about it.


I personally really enjoyed the Neolithic period!  The only complaint I had with it is; the knowledge star seemed much harder to get than the other two.

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4 years ago
Mar 27, 2021, 8:22:50 PM

Three more mont of developent are good, nine would be better and I would not mind waiting that long, as long as it would be 1x9 and not 3x3. Contendwise it would give time to add alot of stuff as well and if you run out of ideas, do not hesitate to ask.

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4 years ago
Mar 27, 2021, 6:41:50 PM

as long as there is a good reason for the delay(like the list you gave) I think all of us are good with it lol. Another opendev would be cool to try out the game and make sure it lives up to the hype! I can't wait for release!

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4 years ago
Mar 27, 2021, 6:28:35 PM

I'm not too bothered by the delay - just excited about getting a quality game. But I am also looking forward to another OpenDev opportunity. Thanks for clarifying the situation and I'm glad a lot of these issues have gotten attention before release instead of after.

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4 years ago
Mar 27, 2021, 4:20:37 PM

Take the necessary time to release the game with enough Polishing you could make a gem. Why be in a hurry (investor should alosa understand that too early and "bad and wobbly" is even worst for the stock exchange than too early release (e.g. red project, they build a legend :) with Witcher and destroy a lot with quick and dirty publish) 
But after all it only my opinion 

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4 years ago
Mar 27, 2021, 2:13:38 PM

Take your time, and most of us will be patiently waiting here! And if you need a fresh new perspective on testing, you know how to reach me! XD  Humankind will be great!  

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4 years ago
Mar 25, 2021, 3:22:54 PM

Certainly a lot still to look forward to in the coming months (contemporary reveals, opendev, etc.) to be excited for. I'm glad the development team is taking as much time as they need to make something truly special. 


Arkalis wrote:

I know it's easy to say as VIP but it is indeed the right call. The game is shaping up quite well but the additional time will certainly help nail those points shared in the blog.

Lucy already had a lot going for it, but that extra time will indeed help Humankind shine in the 4X genre. 

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4 years ago
Mar 25, 2021, 3:14:34 PM

Meh. Still seems light on details given that so much of every conversation is "everything might change". It is nice to see the bullet list of targeted goals though. Not even a sample photo or even a diagram of any new UI stuff (which was admittedly, pretty cluttered). 

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4 years ago
Mar 25, 2021, 3:02:24 PM

Right choice, right and wrong reason, wrong timing....and a needed carrot

Right choice- releasing a bugged, disappointing game with so much potential would have been the wrong choice, The devs rightly realised this

Right reasons- the list of things being worked on is pretty comprehensive (including the help for newbies... really needed for a game of this complexity. My one plea following my one game on Lucy, and it’s there. I was clicking at semi-random, making selections because I liked the name of it.... I know!!!). If some can be sorted by launch, I have confidence the dedication of the team will mean that with every update we’ll have an excellent game by Xmas (and a very good one in August)

Wrong reasons- devs have been very quiet for months. Was the announcement made today because of the speculation caused by the French video yesterday?

Wrong timing- I doubt whether today (or even the last month) was when it was realised it couldn’t be delivered by April 22nd. There’s been a lot of speculation of a delay. Expectations should have been managed way before now. A delay of 4 months less than a month before launch is poor. Not Crossrail poor, but poor.

The needed Carrot... they’ve been working on changes. They will work on changes. To find how balanced their changes are in practice (and to acknowledge/alleviate the disappointment caused by the delay) an early Opendev is needed. To put it another way... I wanna get my mitts on a version of it!


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