Lt_Miles wrote:
Could you provide us with your output_log.txt file, a dxdiag report and one of your diagnostics*.html files? 

In order to investigate this issue, we need these files ^^

I have a similar issue but only when I am playing big maps with 8 factions.  I am running a dual-core i5 @ 2.50 GHz.  I believe the problem stems from the clock speed not being able to keep up with the computing.  I seem to see the same pattern when people discuss this issue.  People are running systems that barely meet the clock speed requirement (i.e. 2.4 GHz, 2.5 GHz).  I strongly suspect this is the root of the issue as it only occurs for after a specific range of turns (mine starts around 90-100 consistently).  When I encounter these issues, I check my Task Manager/Resource Monitor and every time it shows high CPU usage.

It is also worth noting that I did not experience this on one occasion (under the specific rules of Huge Map + 8 Factions).  This was when I played through as the Cultists. In this play through I never experienced even the slightest stutter.

I am having the same problems all the sudden it seems.  

GeForce GTX 960

AMD Phenom II x4 970 

16GB ram

Playing on 1920x1080 but even when I change the settings the stutter still happens.

Ardent Mages - Turn 104.zip

Ok think I got it all

output_log.txt

Diagnostics (2016'10'19 @2018'27'').html

DxDiag.txt

Please let me know if you need anything more or if you find the issue:)

Thank you for your time.

Any update on this?  I found a few more people on the steam forums having the same issue and have sent them this direction.

I am having this problem as well. I was playing a large map with 6 players and the stuttering occurs after about 60 turns. Ending a turn slows the stuttering but after panning or zooming it quickens again. My rig setup is i7 4770k, 2x R9 Nano, 16gb RAM. The Steam forum community led me here and there are many who are having the same problem. Please fix this Amplitude, I love this game.

80-90C is IMHO a lot!

My OCed 4790K is hovering around 70-75C when I run the Intel Burn Test, and way below that in games.

The stuttering is then probably due to the CPU being throttled in order to keep the temps somewhat in check.

Can you perhaps check that your cooling solution is running properly?

player1 wrote:
Now, looking into this, the issue is not uniform.



For example, when I switched to my other save (normal/6 players), which is late game turn 202 winter, there is no shuttering. With frame limiter, fps is constant 31fps (+/-0.1fps).



While in my current game at 88 turn winter, there is shuttering (normal/8 players).

Groo wrote:
Don't know if it helps. But I would upgrade OS to windows 10. Your programs will still be there. I could imagine windows 10 support is better. Other possible solutions could be to get more actual drivers. And in steam you could try to right click on Endless Legend and go to preferences. There are some options, that could be useful, too. What about your main memory ? 4, 8, 16 GB ?

icarus86 wrote:
Are your drivers up-to-date ?

icarus86 wrote:
I would really advise on staying on Windows 7 or 8.1.

There are still lots of incompatibilities with Windows 10, even if Microsoft won't admit that.

player1 wrote:
Now, looking into this, the issue is not uniform.



For example, when I switched to my other save (normal/6 players), which is late game turn 202 winter, there is no shuttering. With frame limiter, fps is constant 31fps (+/-0.1fps).



While in my current game at 88 turn winter, there is shuttering (normal/8 players).

Groo wrote:
From when/where is your experience ? Never had a stable OS like windows 10 before. And I had windows 7 and windows 8.1 (in the beginning cruelful) before (at same time).

4 years after release and there's still stuttering issues, regardless of hardware.

Endless Space 2 also suffers the same problems as Endless Legend, be it framerate or stuttering.

What's the Unity version of these games?  When was the last time the engine was updated?

There is no reason both games should be suffering identical issues unless it's something on the engine's end.. or a core issue with a certain aspect of development.

When I can delve back into ES1 after all these years, I hope to compare it too, but I'm very disappointed about this.

I'm also having this issue on Endless Legend with a high end PC.

Very high end PC here and still having this issue. Looking at my Resource monitor, I see only 1 core taking most of the CPU actions. I've tried running Intel Turbo Boost Max Technologty 3.0 and that moves some of the excess CPU load to another core but the stutter persists. I often ran into this issue on my older laptop and I figured my hardware was the issue, but that should no longer be the case.

Windows 10 Pro

ASUS ROG Strix 1080 Ti SLI

11GB GDDR5X VRAM

i9-7900X @3.3GHz (4.3 with Turbo) 10-Core

ASUS ROG Strix X299E MoBo

32GB RAM DDR4-3200 (4x 8GB)

DxDiag.txt

I have this problem often.  It usually only lasts these days for a few turns though.  Still it's difficult to provide input when it is.  I've provided a load of debug logs files in the past, and it seems it didn't do much to help.  Do the devs still need files for when this happens?

Even with the latest version of the ELCP installed?

forerun wrote:

That bug and fps drop is an Unity Engine bug when game try to load more assets in one time that is possible in engine it will start chocking ( the result is fps drop, sttuter etc ) until unity will not fix it ( because the devs cannot change unity code itself ) that bug will apeear ( 4 years already huh? ) . There is a method to make it not happen but somewhat hackish - download cheat engine select Endless Legend enable speedhack and set the game speed 0.5. Animation will get slower by half unity will stop chocking travel time will go up 2 times the rest will have the same speed as usual ( animations seems to be a problem game is trying to launch too many sparkling crap in the same time result is visible :P )

Tried mentioned solution (speedhack) but unfortunately the microstutter every 2-3 second still occurs. Any news from Amplitude about the fix ?

I suggest that you install the ELCP. This should fix a lot of instances of stutter. And give a better overall game.

Wow! It really helped. No stuttering. Great.

But also - now I'm confused. Why great modders can fix this stuttering issue (without access to game code) and Amplitude cannot ?

This modder DOES have access to the game code.

If you look at the description of the mod, he says he does and why he can do so much more than with just normal modding capability.

As to why the devs did not fix so many issues I can only guess. But I'll give it a go.

1) EL launched with no real AI. As in none of the games races knew that they were different to the others. Amplitude then proceeded to build an AI into the game and have often talked about the fact that there were afraid to change things because other things would be broken after a certain point.

2) Cost of fixes versus new content. This is something I really hate but it is reality. Its much easier to add new content than to fix and perfect your old content that less and less people are playing.

3) Endless Space 2 happened and all the studio's effort went into that game. 

I'm probably missing other things that happened like departures from the studio etc.