Introducing Endless Space 2 Supremacy

So for now we have: 

2 science factions (Vaulters and Sophons)

2 militaristic (Hishho and Cravers)

2 industry (UE and Riftborn)

2 pacifist (fish and trees)

and...

1 religous faction (Vodyani)

1 eco (Horatio)

So with this logic next factions should be religous and eco, I'm right Apmplitude?

RoboPig wrote:

But does their population have any political leaning towards the religious party to be able to support that playstyle without heavy propaganda use?

The population is militaristic, so no. But keep in mind, Hissho starting government is dictatorship, what allows you to switch political party without penalty and Hissho don't make use of common approval mechanics. Hissho faction relies on Keii mechanic.

I find it comical that this is considered an expansion just cause a minor race got promoted to a major one. But this expansion feels more of an update considering how much time it took for them to get it out. I was expecting something more like an espionage system and diplomatic sabotage like making other races break alliances or force them to wage war on another race. As long as you can spend your influence and trade, I don't see why you cant force a race vs race wars. 

I mean galactic "civilization 3 intrigue" has better options than this game right now, the only difference is that galactic civilization is too much of a micro-management game and for that reason I play Endless space 2.

Strato wrote:

I find it comical that this is considered an expansion just cause a minor race got promoted to a major one. But this expansion feels more of an update considering how much time it took for them to get it out. I was expecting something more like an espionage system and diplomatic sabotage like making other races break alliances or force them to wage war on another race. As long as you can spend your influence and trade, I don't see why you cant force a race vs race wars. 

I mean galactic "civilization 3 intrigue" has better options than this game right now, the only difference is that galactic civilization is too much of a micro-management game and for that reason I play Endless space 2.

So your complaint is..."I didn't get what I was expecting for the game, and so this feels like an update simply b/c I can't find any actual critique of the expansion" (Not saying there isn't actual critique tho) 

Comparing the release of another major faction and new game mechanics (Behemoths) that are reminiscent of the Guardians from EL (which were themselves a DLC Package), that also came with a free update that reworked parts of the invasion mechanics (among other things) to just a simple update, like, "Guardians and the Galaxy" or "Stellar Prisoner" which really only added a new hero and quest, is just sad. 

It's almost comical since arguably this expansion adds more than the Vaulter Expansion, yet you’re stating this one appears like an update. 

And like @ImperatorTempus42 stated, the Hissho was already a Major Faction from the first game. So it's less of a minor faction being promoted to a major faction, and more, a major faction has returned from being demoted to a minor faction (one that is still present in game as a sort of Sophon/Mavros situation).

Suis3i wrote:

Strato wrote:

I find it comical that this is considered an expansion just cause a minor race got promoted to a major one. But this expansion feels more of an update considering how much time it took for them to get it out. I was expecting something more like an espionage system and diplomatic sabotage like making other races break alliances or force them to wage war on another race. As long as you can spend your influence and trade, I don't see why you cant force a race vs race wars. 

I mean galactic "civilization 3 intrigue" has better options than this game right now, the only difference is that galactic civilization is too much of a micro-management game and for that reason I play Endless space 2.

So your complaint is..."I didn't get what I was expecting for the game, and so this feels like an update simply b/c I can't find any actual critique of the expansion" (Not saying there is actual critique tho) 

Comparing the release of another major faction and new game mechanics (Behemoths) that are reminiscent of the Guardians from EL (which were themselves a DLC Package), that also came with a free update that reworked parts of the invasion mechanics (among other things) to just a simple update, like, "Guardians and the Galaxy" or "Stellar Prisoner" which really only added a new hero and quest, is just sad. 

It's almost comical since arguably this expansion adds more than the Vaulter Expansion, yet you’re stating this one appears like an update. 

And like @ImperatorTempus42 stated, the Hissho was already a Major Faction from the first game. So it's less of a minor faction being promoted to a major faction, and more, a major faction has returned from being demoted to a minor faction (one that is still present in game as a sort of Sophon/Mavros situation).

 Very Well said. The Hishos were kind of a big deal in ES1 for me. Always saw them as a way to play full military without the pressure of playing Cravers. Really enjoyed the old Invasion Bushido mechanic. Very unique and straight forward race. 

 Bonuses to everything involving battles in exchange of poor research and average economy until you starting invading, then you had 20% on everything, even more damage and could mitigate the research deficit by simply having more planets than everyone else by taking them trough force since your fleet was so effective (beating a 2.5k manpower fleet with a 1.2k with ease thanks to the raciais and pilot hero's Dust Barrier in the early game felt great). 

 Bringing those guys back in a more complex and developed manner is definetly not an after-thought. Unexpected, I was counting on the second coming of the Lost or the Umbral Choir, but hey, I think the Hisho are even better all things considered. They were just brutal. 

The planet "repair" feature looks pretty cool but I have a few questions:

-Does it works on core-cracked planets destroyed the old way?

-If yes will we be able to rebuild Harrow?