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7 years ago
Aug 3, 2018, 9:34:26 AM

Hello everyone.
So i've been playing as a vodyani right now, installed new module so that lumeris won't destroy my arks and had enough essence to create new ark.
BUT a small problem appeared, when ever i put that module in ark, it is not displayed as a createable ship (as ARK), completely missing from creating menu on systems.
Is that supposed to be that way? Or there is a catch to creating new arks with this new module? Or is it a bug after all.

Updated 6 years ago.
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7 years ago
Aug 3, 2018, 9:36:55 AM

perhaps you lack the strategic resource for one of the modules or the slots ..  (keep in mind that even tier 1 arks have x4 module cost multiplier and that applies to strategic needs as well - can burn a ton of strategics on arks ..)

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7 years ago
Aug 3, 2018, 9:58:18 AM
peddroelm wrote:

perhaps you lack the strategic resource for one of the modules or the slots ..  (keep in mind that even tier 1 arks have x4 module cost multiplier and that applies to strategic needs as well - can burn a ton of strategics on arks ..)

Whenever there is not enough essence or resource to create ark his icon becomes less, lets call it, saturated.
In this case it just disappears and removing that new module brings back arks for creation.

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7 years ago
Aug 4, 2018, 12:39:29 PM

I can confirm this. The Icon completly disappears. The Arc at that point did not need any strategic ressources, essence was at full capacity and even manpower was about three times what I would need to fill that ship. Though the latter is, as far as I understand, optional.

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7 years ago
Oct 31, 2018, 10:09:00 PM

I can confirm that as soon as I add Meditation Module to my Ark's design template it cannot be created. The module doesn't need any special resource, but after adding it Ark is no longer possible to be produced and removing this module fixes the problem. I've seen this bug reported on the ES2's Steam forum.

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7 years ago
Nov 10, 2018, 9:02:23 AM

Faced with the same bug. I first tried to load the previous save, but even there the ark is not displayed in the list of construction options (although it was before my new module design) And I noticed this bug in bots too! After the fourth ark they just stop building them!(And here is the proof)

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7 years ago
Nov 10, 2018, 9:38:34 AM
Zignyak wrote:

Faced with the same bug. I first tried to load the previous save, but even there the ark is not displayed in the list of construction options (although it was before my new module design) And I noticed this bug in bots too! After the fourth ark they just stop building them!(And here is the proof)

I am so sad and disappointed that bug is still not fixed. But i think they are working on new faction and fix will be released with that new patch.

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6 years ago
Nov 10, 2018, 9:01:58 PM
Neron wrote:Let's hope so. Vodyani- my favorite faction in the game =___=
Zignyak wrote:

Faced with the same bug. I first tried to load the previous save, but even there the ark is not displayed in the list of construction options (although it was before my new module design) And I noticed this bug in bots too! After the fourth ark they just stop building them!(And here is the proof)

I am so sad and disappointed that bug is still not fixed. But i think they are working on new faction and fix will be released with that new patch.


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6 years ago
Nov 15, 2018, 1:32:08 PM

I also had this bug...


I lost several turns for nothing thinking it was going to be unlocked by reaching a new technological level.

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6 years ago
Nov 16, 2018, 10:09:14 PM

After November (prod. ver. 5.5.1.7352351) patch the bug is still there. I can't build any Ark (new template or default one) if it has Meditation Module on. When I remove this module from blueprint I can build Arks again.

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6 years ago
Nov 17, 2018, 10:11:45 AM
warjan wrote:

After November (prod. ver. 5.5.1.7352351) patch the bug is still there. I can't build any Ark (new template or default one) if it has Meditation Module on. When I remove this module from blueprint I can build Arks again.

Yep, this is unacceptable.

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6 years ago
Nov 17, 2018, 4:05:37 PM

Could anybody who has run into this issue please provide some save games?


I've admittedly not played Vodyani in some time, but I have never seen this issue, so having a save where the bug has happened would really help us.

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6 years ago
Nov 17, 2018, 5:49:45 PM

I just reload an old saved game (done with the previous version 1.3.14 S5).


I check again: Ark + Meditation Module on : ark is not displayed in the list of construction

Remove Meditation Module : can build ark again


Here is my saved game (saved with current version): ArkBug.sav



I just try a new game with Vodyani: it works flawlessly ! No 'Meditation Module' bug...

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6 years ago
Nov 19, 2018, 10:10:04 AM

Alright, I've seen the bug myself in a fresh game, and I've forwarded your saves for the bug to be examined.


I'll let you know when I know more.

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6 years ago
Nov 19, 2018, 10:15:27 AM
The-Cat-o-Nine-Tales wrote:

Alright, I've seen the bug myself in a fresh game, and I've forwarded your saves for the bug to be examined.


I'll let you know when I know more.

That is good to hear, but after 3 month? I know you guys busy, but there are not so many posts so you missed this bug for 3 month :P

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6 years ago
Nov 19, 2018, 10:18:12 AM

I'm sorry we did not get around to this sooner. As much as I would have liked to be here months ago, I only joined last week.

For what it's worth, I'll do what I can to keep you all abreast of the status of issues you report.

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6 years ago
Nov 19, 2018, 10:22:38 AM
The-Cat-o-Nine-Tales wrote:

I'm sorry we did not get around to this sooner. As much as I would have liked to be here months ago, I only joined last week.

For what it's worth, I'll do what I can to keep you all abreast of the status of issues you report.

Thank you!

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6 years ago
Nov 20, 2018, 1:09:16 PM
The-Cat-o-Nine-Tales wrote:

I'm sorry we did not get around to this sooner. As much as I would have liked to be here months ago, I only joined last week.

For what it's worth, I'll do what I can to keep you all abreast of the status of issues you report.

Thank you very much!
Make vodyany  great again! :D

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6 years ago
Jan 8, 2019, 4:59:58 PM

Bug confirmed, please see screenshoot below.

Need FIX ASAP, because Unfallen roots are everywhere and I need new ARKs to remove their vines!




It's also reported on Steam:


https://steamcommunity.com/app/392110/discussions/0/1741090847743949153/

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6 years ago
Jan 8, 2019, 7:09:55 PM
CharityDude wrote:

Bug confirmed, please see screenshoot below.

Need FIX ASAP, because Unfallen roots are everywhere and I need new ARKs to remove their vines!




It's also reported on Steam:


https://steamcommunity.com/app/392110/discussions/0/1741090847743949153/

Remove the module from design, it will restore it in creation menu.

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6 years ago
Apr 7, 2019, 12:51:51 PM

Had the same issue - first time playing Vodyani and I gave up in frustration. Is this being fixed?

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6 years ago
Apr 14, 2019, 7:01:57 PM
roguebagel wrote:

Had the same issue - first time playing Vodyani and I gave up in frustration. Is this being fixed?

I have been playing Vodyani recently and it looks like like they fixed it (they fixed that even before i started playing them again).

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6 years ago
Sep 18, 2019, 5:39:18 PM

I have the same problem. I recently bought a game wth DLC's and the first race I chose was Vodiani. But I see here that developers (contrary to what they suggest) don't care about the community and the players. This thread is over 1 year old! And STIL NOT FIXED! I'm already starting to regret the purchase. The game is interesting, but it seems to be underdeveloped and not finished.

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6 years ago
Sep 19, 2019, 1:05:08 AM
Rosomak wrote:

I have the same problem. I recently bought a game wth DLC's and the first race I chose was Vodiani. But I see here that developers (contrary to what they suggest) don't care about the community and the players. This thread is over 1 year old! And STIL NOT FIXED! I'm already starting to regret the purchase. The game is interesting, but it seems to be underdeveloped and not finished.

I urge you to withhold judgment at this time, my friend. The developers do actually respond to the community, quite often, as well as involve the community in a lot of decisions regarding the development of their games. For instance, the last two factions in Endless Space 2 were the products of a lot of community input. 


With that said, some bugs are harder to fix than others and it can be difficult to track down exactly what causes a bug. You'll also notice that the developer in this thread asked not once, but twice, for a saved game file and I don't think one was posted yet. This makes it even harder to track down a bug. 


I wouldn't throw in the towel yet. This is a solid community and the developers are actively involved in the game and the community. 


Welcome to the Endless galaxy, I hope you choose to stick around for a bit. 

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6 years ago
Sep 19, 2019, 4:46:29 PM


Thank you for your kind words and for your opinion. I konw, they asked for a savegames, but also in this thread devs wrote that they managed to repeat the bug. 10 months ago... If this is responding to community voices, I probably know other standards. Creating new DLCs even with players is nice. It is also a source of income. Fixing bugs is a cost. Here you can see that nobody wants to pay it. It's a one-sided approach. I am a programmer by profession and I know from my experience that finding the cause of a problem can be complicated. But it doesn't last 10 months! Seriously :-) I look at the case coolly and I am not impressed with the marketing strategy of the company (we love players and they love us). I bought a product advertised as ready, but it is not. just like that.

Please don't get me wrong. I think the game is good and addictive. That's why I'm so sad. But the longer I play it, more bugs I find. Sometime you can't select fleet in the system. It is possible only from the fleet management screen. On diplomacy screen are switched names of treaties,  descriptions of resources do not fit in menu. I do not mention the quality of the translation. This title has its own age already and such things should be fixed long time ago.


I'm not giving up the game yet and I hope that some patches will come out. That's why I write here :-)


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6 years ago
Sep 19, 2019, 7:17:15 PM

Rosomak,


If you'd like to post your save and diagnostic with a description, the below links will help you locate them, etc. In short, they are located in:


My Documents\Endless Space 2\Temporary Files 

My Documents\Endless Space 2\Save Files


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https://www.games2gether.com/amplitude-studios/endless-space-2/forums/114-bug-reports/threads/21380-the-tester-s-guide-to-the-bug-report?page=1


https://www.games2gether.com/amplitude-studios/endless-space-2/forums/114-bug-reports/threads/25086-tester-s-guide-addendum-multiplayer-desyncs?page=1#post-233358

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