So I am playing a game where I assimilated the Sowers and got World Architects (50% off terraforming).

I didn't boost them,  ever.

At the time of my latest save game I have 8 of them in my empire.

I have saved and loaded the game several times just through normal play sessions.

Today I noticed that all terraforming costs are 10% normal,  ie 90% reduced from regular price.

I looked at a wide variety of terraforming and each one was 10% regular cost:

Ice -> Arctic: 56

Desert -> Arid: 100

Arid -> Jungle or Savannah: 200

Ash -> Desert:  56

Desert -> Savannah: 200

I'm wondering if maybe the Sowers "World Architects" is bugged in the same manner as the Riftborn time dilation abilities was;  ie on every load/save it accumulates.  With terraforming perhaps it is simply capped at 90% reduction.  I haven't looked at the XML files.

I am not using any mods.   All DLC is present and enabled.

Savefile attached,  maybe I'm simply overlooking some other tech or ability?  I've played plenty of games and never seen terraforming costs this low.

UE Hard 12 v3 - in progress.sav

Its capped at 90%

Ok.. so it's capped at 90%,  but how did I get there?   As far as I can tell I should only have a 50% discount from World Architects.   And I did for a while,  but over several save/load cycles I think the value got corrupted.

bump for visibility.  Mr. Nine-Tails,  can you please confirm this is buggy behavior and logged as a bug?

Monthly bump for visibility.  Is anyone from Amplitude reading this forum any more?

Hi, SilaOfBorg.I think you may be right in your assumptions. A can see assimilation trait applied twice to your empire:

I'd also assume, maybe you assimilated them twice, but after generating the galaxy with similar settings and same seed number, I can see they were present only once on your map.

Thanks for confirming,  Sublustris!

Now we just need to get Amplitude's attention... probably easier said than done while they're working on Humankind.   :P

monthly bump for visibility.  Mr. Nine-Tails,  this has been confirmed as buggy behavior.   Can we get it logged?

Bump again, bump again,  jiggity jog

Did you assimilate the minor faction twice or something

No.  Once.  It was fine until I did a save/load a couple times.

Monthly bump!

Bumpity bump we go!

I'm afraid this won't be fixed. Did you manage to reproduce it in further games?

No,  I haven't -- I've only ever assimilated the Sowers once.   Normally someone else gets to them first,  or they don't spawn at all.

As a programmer myself I'm guessing this would be exceedingly easy to reproduce and fix.  

Mostly at this point I'm just curious to see if Amplitude is done with ES2 or if they're just busy with Humankind.  Only so many people to go around,  after all.    So I'll keep bumping until I get a response one way or the other,  or I forgot ES2 exists -- whichever comes first.   :)

keeping it on the radar..  mainly just curiosity now.   I wonder,  did I miss some notification from Amplitude that ES2 is "done"?

They announced that es2 is done a while ago 

Ah, good to know,  thank you!

Bumping with the hope that a fix for this can sneak into The Last Patch -- as it currently stands, any faction that integrates the Sowers has an auto-win button if you save and load the game a couple times.

Monthly bump.   Mr Cat o' Nine Tails,  are you still out there?  :)

It's Ms. Cat o' Nine Tales, but yes, I'm still here, and I put it on our list. But since this seems to be difficult to reproduce, I can make no promises.

Good enough for me.  Thank you!  

For repro,  may I suggest:

1. assimilate Sowers

2. save game

3. load game

That's all I had to do in a nutshell,  but of course,  I cannot say if there were some other factors at play,  and unfortunately I do not have a "before" save I can upload for the devs' consideration.  

I cannot reproduce this

Tried this with a different minor,  took the quest,  waited a couple turns,  then assimilated by influence.  Saved and reloaded the game a few times but their minor faction trait never doubled up.  :\

Hopefully someone at Amplitude is able to repro given my save and instructions..  if not,  at least I have a good idea of how to remove the Sowers from the game,  so I'll be happy either way.   :)