it's a good dlc, but it's definitly not something you should buy rn if you're tight on money, since the main attraction is the vaulters, so i'd have to say no :/

not entirely certain, I would say yes it is worth it because it adds more diversity.

and access to the traits for custom factions.

the exotic ship modules aren't part of the expansion but of the free update.

the expansion does include 3 new weapon types, boarding pods, ion weaponry and AoE weapons.

We have to buy the dlc to get the pirate dyplomacy?  Because 10$ for a new gameplay mechanics that should be added from the beginning or in an new update, it just me make want to stop playing this game anymore or buy a new Endless game.

Planeswalker wrote:

I only played Endless space 1 and i understand they were very big in Legends and are a fan favourite faction. However are :

• Sister of Mercy Minor Faction
• Pirate Diplomacy
• Opbot (hero)
• Exotic ship modules
• Additional Deeds
• 4 exploration quests

Worth buying the DLC if your not really interested in playing as the vaulters? I think quite a few people here have bought it already and was wondering about your experience. Bit tight on money lately unfortunately.

You ask a valid question. However, I would like to give you also another angle of perspective on the topic :)

How many space 4x games out there do you know that have this level of quality? That many unique races, animations, pictures, polished GUI, nearly zero bugs, playable from start to finish in many differentr ways. Why am I asking this, you think? Because Endless Space 2 is one of the few good games in a 4x segment with many many failed, abandoned, unfinished games, with bad ratings or just riddled with bugs. Most developers just fail at this epic task, because such games take a lot of skill to make and require many good people, from design, balancing, GUI programming. And artwork, to bring it to live, to make it not just an excel spreadsheet. 

So I would say, even if the Vaulters are not the major thing for you, supporting this game for extra content is a deed of virtue :)  Because if we all start looking at every penny towards these kind of games, we should not wonder when these games stop to exist at some point (in such a level of quality).

Support it, and buy! :)

iDrunk wrote:

okusen wrote:

Because 10$ for a new gameplay mechanics that should be added from the beginning or in an new update, it just me make want to stop playing this game anymore or buy a new Endless game.

Please remind me which law determines what should be added from the beginning?

There no law, you're right 100%, but that do not encourage people to buy your game. But i also said that it can be added later with an update, free at best. You can sell you're faction how much you want because i find it minor unlike the pirate dyplomacy, it would be worth if it added more content like spying or i don't know what more.

I want to be a player not a consumer.

okusen wrote:

iDrunk wrote:

okusen wrote:

Because 10$ for a new gameplay mechanics that should be added from the beginning or in an new update, it just me make want to stop playing this game anymore or buy a new Endless game.

Please remind me which law determines what should be added from the beginning?

There no law, you're right 100%, but that do not encourage people to buy your game. But i also said that it can be added later with an update, free at best. You can sell you're faction how much you want because i find it minor unlike the pirate dyplomacy, it would be worth if it added more content like spying or i don't know what more.

I want to be a player not a consumer.

It's not unusual that Strategy Games give certain Content like additional Diplomacy options, or Spying, stuff like that out via paid DLCs. And to be completly honest after some point that is only fair. Gamedevelopment is not cheap, you have to pay the people working on the content after all (it's not their hobby, it's their job) so just doing free Updates over and over again won't pay the bills. 

Sure free Updates are the best for the Players but again, you can only do so many free Updates until you will need to earn some money again.

I only played Endless space 1 and i understand they were very big in Legends and are a fan favourite faction. However are :

• Sister of Mercy Minor Faction
• Pirate Diplomacy
• Opbot (hero)
• Exotic ship modules
• Additional Deeds
• 4 exploration quests

Worth buying the DLC if your not really interested in playing as the vaulters? I think quite a few people here have bought it already and was wondering about your experience. Bit tight on money lately unfortunately.

okusen wrote:

There no law, you're right 100%, but that do not encourage people to buy your game. But i also said that it can be added later with an update, free at best. You can sell you're faction how much you want because i find it minor unlike the pirate dyplomacy, it would be worth if it added more content like spying or i don't know what more.

I want to be a player not a consumer.

Do you know that in Stellaris "pirate dyplomacy" will be added in paid DLC? Oh, and a planetary destroers in the same DLC, unlike ES )))

Anyway, I am arguing just because its a very ambiguously topic. You think that pirate dyplomacy is significant enough to give it to everyone, but not significant enough to pay money for it. Whereas I think that this mechanic is just a nice bonus to sweet Faction DLC I will buy anyway cause Im an Amplitude fan.

And Amplitude already make some free content, so here is not the right place to fight with DLCs domination in industry )))

iDrunk wrote:

okusen wrote:

There no law, you're right 100%, but that do not encourage people to buy your game. But i also said that it can be added later with an update, free at best. You can sell you're faction how much you want because i find it minor unlike the pirate dyplomacy, it would be worth if it added more content like spying or i don't know what more.

I want to be a player not a consumer.

Do you know that in Stellaris "pirate dyplomacy" will be added in paid DLC? Oh, and a planetary destroers in the same DLC, unlike ES )))

Anyway, I am arguing just because its a very ambiguously topic. You think that pirate dyplomacy is significant enough to give it to everyone, but not significant enough to pay money for it. Whereas I think that this mechanic is just a nice bonus to sweet Faction DLC I will buy anyway cause Im an Amplitude fan.

And Amplitude already make some free content, so here is not the right place to fight with DLCs domination in industry )))

Amplitude Studio doesn't have to follow the same policy like the other, but i guess that as long it work it will continue.

I didn't play the early access so i don't know how the gameplay changed during that period, so i can't really on how the developement was and if it goes good.

But this game got one hell of a design, music, story, and could surpass civilization series. 

Else, i apologize if i seem rude but in my opinion amplitude can do better if they invest more in gameplay instead of the other parts i'm pretty sure they could be the greatest.

But well, i prefer to let them release every dlc they can and see.

Still i will continue to admire the studio.

But the dlc is not worth the price wait a reduction to at least 7$ if you want to both support Amplitude and your wallet. That all, sorry for disturbing the main topic of this post.

okusen wrote:

Amplitude Studio doesn't have to follow the same policy like the other, but i guess that as long it work it will continue.

I think they don't))

Else, i apologize if i seem rude but in my opinion amplitude can do better if they invest more in gameplay instead of the other parts i'm pretty sure they could be the greatest.

But well, i prefer to let them release every dlc they can and see.

But there are lot of features and mechanics in comparison with ES1 !

And their art is awesome!

But the dlc is not worth the price wait a reduction to at least 7$ if you want to both support Amplitude and your wallet. 

Your forget "IMHO" ))

That all, sorry for disturbing the main topic of this post.

Well, I should agree here - better not buy this DLC if your don't want Vaulters ((

imho