Slowhands wrote:

Suis3i wrote:

...Spock could hit us out of nowhere with the Endless are humans Rofl. But it makes more sense for them to go the whole 'Forerunner' route and make them a separate but similar species that has a relationship with the Mezari. 

No, the Endless were not humans :)

There were no humans on Auriga before the crashes/explorers, unless they existed as part of the lab experiments of the Concrete Endless. The Sisters are just a branch of the Mezari, like Crusader orders (Hospitallers, Templars, etc.) were branches of humanity.

-Slow

Okay awesome, I'd like to think that they were experiments since Mizi was there as a 'Native' before any known/canonic Mezari landings on Auriga 

Maybe the player is the Endless;) Giving that we can use amplified reality in-game

IceGremlin wrote:

Ardent Mages are an offshoot religious minority of the Roving Clans in the past. It's mentioned in their quest at one point, I believe when you have to hire a Roving Clans hero.

Is Mizi Kurtiz confirmed separate from the ship crew? I've not met her cause I'm bad at DotE. If not, I expect she's actually part of some existing social group among Mezari, like a watchdog or Red Cross sort of figure, charged with watching the prisoners and ensuring their fair treatment, but also with looming over the crew not to overstep their bounds. An agent from a third party organization assigned to clean up the Success's act.

We have to remember Mezari culture doesn't necessarily have to be monolithic. Horatio, UE, and Vaulters are visually distinct. Given a few hundred years, the followers of a random dedicated person from a distinct sub-culture could easily look like another culture entirely.

All aside from the megademon thing of course.

She's listed as a 'Native' in DoTE, so yeah separate from the Success crew/passengers. 

Lol I know that's why I put it makes more sense that they're a different but similar (in appearance) species 

Suis3i wrote:

Pluvinarch wrote:

Some Mezari could have arrived on Auriga long before the Mezari on the Success ship. These first Mezari are probably from another ship accident and they didn't manage to contact their Mezari homeland. Or they could have been abducted eons ago by the Endless who wanted to experiment on them. These Mezari totally forgot their spacefaring origins (unlike the Vaulters).

Another possible theory is that the human looking creatures you find at Auriga are Endless. That's because the Broken Lords are supposed to have Endless ancestors and they looked human before their transformation. From the Broken Lords faction new factions diverged, such as the Ardent Mages, Roving Clans and possibly the Sisters of Mercy and the Dorgeshi.

The Broken Lords are Concrete Descendants of those who survived the Virtual Attack on Auriga. 

This is from the Endless Legend Artbook: 

This basically puts them in the same boat as the Amoeba (who are also now Concrete Descendants). 

I'm pretty sure the Roving Clans are actually descendants of the Merchants who you find in DoTE, in effect being survivors of the Success's crash landing. 

And the Ardent Mages, if I'm not mistaken, aren't related to the Broken Lords in any way (other than Dust) but had some other origins, that I can't really remember right now. 

The Ended/Haunts are also Endless "survivors" who appear to have been virtualized into Dust during the Virtual Attack on Auriga. It's why they frequent the Endless ruins so much. 

The Endless on the other hand, look human in physical appearance but I don't think they were human looking in every way, just look at the Virtual and Concrete Survivors in ES1/DoTE/El/ES2 (you may say they're wearing masks but the Virtuals are representations of an Endless basically naked) and the statues of the Endless. They lack a mouth as well as some other prominent facial features. Also, the Haunts mask, which seems to imitate a skull, lacks a mouth. 

Though you never know, Spock could hit us out of nowhere with the Endless are humans Rofl. But it makes more sense for them to go the whole 'Forerunner' route and make them a separate but similar species that has a relationship with the Mezari. 

There is no way that the Endless were humans, mainly because they come from Tor, which is a Tundra planet and the fact that the Endless Empire was comprised of many species, including the original 3 from their Homeworld.

IceGremlin wrote:

All aside from the megademon thing of course.

The Kazanji??

nuyu wrote:

Are they all female races only? So they reproduce through parthenogenesis same like Asari in ME

I think the Sisters of Mercy reproduce through normal human means, however, the faction is located in walled/fortified towns that are ruled by the Sisters of Mercy, who act similar to a military/governmental/religious organization. 

Think of them like the Witches of Dathomir from Star Wars 

They probably recruit through having kids or having members join their group, that undergo training and such. 

Are they all female races only? So they reproduce through parthenogenesis same like Asari in ME

Some Mezari could have arrived on Auriga long before the Mezari on the Success ship. These first Mezari are probably from another ship accident and they didn't manage to contact their Mezari homeland. Or they could have been abducted eons ago by the Endless who wanted to experiment on them. These Mezari totally forgot their spacefaring origins (unlike the Vaulters).

Another possible theory is that the human looking creatures you find at Auriga are Endless. That's because the Broken Lords are supposed to have Endless ancestors and they looked human before their transformation. From the Broken Lords faction new factions diverged, such as the Ardent Mages, Roving Clans and possibly the Sisters of Mercy and the Dorgeshi.