gkaytaz wrote:

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In Phantom Menace there is a scene taking place in the Senate where you can see some E.T. guys sitting in one of the pods at the lower corner of the screen.  So, E.T. people do exist in the SW universe.  

In the movie E.T. there are two scenes referring to the SW universe.  In one of them the little boy shows E.T. his toys and names them Boba Fett, Greedo and Lando.  Also there is a TIE fighter in his room.  Also later on when they go trick-or-treating E.T. sees a child dressed as Yoda, which prompts him to greet the kid and yell "home!"  

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I see your argument, but... I worked on a Might & Magic game with Nival; they put a tank from one of their Blitzkrieg games in the background of one of the maps. That certainly doesn't mean that the universe of Ashan had anything to do with Earth!

And, regardless, Earth is still officially not part of the Endless Universe ^^

-Slow

Kuma wrote:

Slowhands wrote:

- As Galathad said, the Vaulters came on the Argosy, at a similar time to the Success. Rediscovering the Argosy and escaping the dying planet becomes the Vaulters' goal in EL. They discovered Opbot, a survivor of the Success, at some point in their history.

In ES2, during the Vaulters' main quest, one of the Academy hero states that their ancestors came on the Success. Here I quote the in-game files :

 

Yes, there is that ^^ 

On the one hand, there would certainly have been some intermarriage between the Success and the Argosy survivors; they are all from the same stock, after all. But it is an exaggeration (and done for narrative purposes in the quest story) to accuse the Vaulter faction of being descendants of criminals. Even if they were only descendents of the Success survivors, they would still be descendents of crew and guards as well!

The main reason that we separated the two and say "the Vaulters came from Argosy" is that the Success is really a Dungeon of the Endless ship, and was created for a game with a much more humorous / ridiculous story and tone. I didn't really want the more serious games (EL and ES) connected with that lore. In addition, when the time came to leave Auriga, I thought it would be too confusing to be talking about these different ships that arrived and who came from where and all of that... though maybe, in the end, the only person who ended up getting confused was me.

However, to simplify, the Vaulters came *primarily* from the Argosy, and Opbot came from the Success.

The sequence of Success-then-Argosy is pretty much what we have been thinking, and the discovery of the remains of the Argosy and the rest of the story on Auriga are as @Kuma describes it.

-Slow