New colonization system

I think it would be very nice if you could sum up your thread from the forum here, to give a fresh start to your Idea. It's not very ideal to have it splitted between here and the forums :)

It's 4 post-long. So not sure if it can fit here with copy-paste only. I'll try to make an abstrct, but not sure if it will be very clear without the graphic explanation.

I 'd wish this idea would get more attention since it's a much more intutive colonisation system, although maybe a bit too complex for the average gamer.

@ Etheon:

As I see this idea and one from XorUnison are not the same, but are complementary. I have no problem in fusing both. At this moment My idea covers how to research the colonisation techs, while XorUnison covers all remaining aspects of a new possible grid, like terraforming, FIDSI , etc.. but only mentions an actual issue on how they're unlocked.

They are indeed complementary and we are working on both accept but it's part of a same global process; that's why this idea has been tagged duplicated. We could have tag it as greenlighted too but we might derivate from it depending on how we restructure the planet grid.

Cheers,

@Kweel_Nakashyn made two interesting observations about this colonization system, to summarise:

1. Can you invade a system with all the colonized planets of its owner needs a tech you haven't?
2. What happens with factions like Lumeris, who should start in an atoll planet for its lore, but will benefit largely from dry planets, which will be various tiers far away?

He posted it in various threads, I haven't time to find just now, but be glad to see a link, this way you'll be able to read by his own words.

I have thought some solutions for this problems:

About #1:

Recently I assimilated some deuyivans, who were living in its gas giant. Why is it possible if gas giants are late game tech?

As I see it has sense in a lore way if you assume that they get into your empire voluntarily, and so they're giving its FIDSI to you as collaboration in exchange of protection or whatever you like, but you can't colonize its planet, you just let them there doing its own internal things, as long as you receive what you negotiated. It also make sense in gameplay terms, allowing you to assimilate any minor at any game stage, without having to wait till late game for this specific one.

Something similar can happen when you invade a planet with all pop in a planet you haven't the tech to colonize: assume you ask for their FIDSI and "collaboration" in exchange of not being wiped out from the orbit / starved / whatever you think fits better, but essentially your population doesn't settle on this planet, but leaves local pop in vassalage / slavery / whatever fits better status. This will allow to solve this issue, assuming that:

• You can invade faction systems or assimilate minors, you haven't the colonization techs for its planets, as long as your pop doesn't settle on this planets.
• Only local pop will grow on this planets.
• After invading a system, you can same turn colonize any planet you have the tech for, and "motivate" local pop to move there.

Think it solves gameplay without being lore-conflicting.

About #2:

Here I thought of three possible solutions, that can be applied at same time:

• XorUnison's planet FIDSI suggestion makes it more distributed, with its two axes, so implementing this as it stands will at least partially mitigate the issue.
• My idea about colonization techs allows you to move in two axis, which combined with the previous point will mitigate the problem even further.
• In my idea each faction has its own planet chart. Have in mind that this is not obligatory to have same for all factions, and it can be altered at will. This will allow, to say in the Lumeris case, to move dry planets one tier before it is expected if you follow the "neutral" chart, as a faction trait. Understand that they'll do anything for dust and try to rush optimal planets.

As before, I think it solves gameplay issues without being lore conflicting.

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NOTE: I'll copy-paste this to related ideas threads, just in cae you're interested, and not following this specific one.

I saw you changed this idea status from "duplicate" to "need more info". Afeter Etheon's and Meedoc's posts I supposed you just added it to XorUnison's main idea, but if you feel this is good and want to know something more about this, please ask.

If not I'll suppose the main idea continues included into XorUnison's and you're working this as one.