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EmperorLorien

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EmperorLorien

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13 years ago

May 7, 2012, 3:50:39 AM

The only reference I remember to a currency named "Dust" is an old sci-fi movie called "Battle Beyond the Stars". Its mentioned in a scene where a mercenary is discussing the options for selling a girl that he had captured: "a female form like yours could bring in some heavy dust."

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Platescale

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Platescale

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13 years ago

May 14, 2012, 2:16:58 PM

Hm, this gives me an idea for a Planet special: Advanced Locals. +1 Population, -30 morale, +1 Industry, +1 Dust. There's a budding local civilization here, advanced enough that they've even placed their first satellites! They've already started collecting dust and their infrastructure is a great benefit to a new colony. While they're no match for your technologies, they're remarkably unhappy about being 'colonized'. The planet verges on ungovernable.

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gunnergoz

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gunnergoz

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13 years ago

May 14, 2012, 2:16:02 PM

Of course there actually is dark matter and dark energy in the universe as we understand it today. We really know next to nothing about them except that they are intimately involved with what makes the universe what we know it to be. Perhaps one of these two "things" will end up being the equivalent of dust in the game. When we know how to find, harness, control and direct dark matter and dark energy, we may be well past what even the game represents as one future.

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Eterean

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Eterean

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13 years ago

May 14, 2012, 2:10:29 PM

Bugg wrote:
How about Unhelpful Fremen locals?

Wouldn't it depend on who you are if they are helpful or not?

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Platescale

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13 years ago

May 14, 2012, 1:24:33 PM

The Dust in this game is leftover nanites, safe to trade in because it's mostly inert, and yet hugely valuable due to its uses both realized and potential... Some of the fluff (like Revenue Zen) implies that part of the huge Dust-revenue enhancements later in the game isn't because you're getting that much better at acquiring Dust, but because the true value of Dust in catalyzing everything your civilization does is becoming clearer. As you become more like the Endless, you really begin go utilize Dust in everything.

This makes me want to have a 'Dust Production Factory' system improvement in the late game deep in the economy technology tree. The Endless had to manufacture Dust, so why can't you eventually do so yourself? I can think of what I'd do as a modification, myself... I'd strip out 'Adaptive Tax System' (which, fluffwise, irritates me) and make it Revenue Zen. Then I'd take what is currently Revenue Zen and make that the production factory.

I'm not clear why Dust can be used directly by some people and not by others. The primary effects seem to be mental augmentations... The bios of the heroes imply that Dust exposure at a level sufficient to activate 'heroic' abilities is highly lethal for most of the races, though none of the Sophon heroes mention such things. Draw your own conclusions from that. I'm not sure what to make of it.

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Bugg

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Bugg

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13 years ago

May 14, 2012, 1:01:38 PM

I like the thought behind Dust. It fills a few logical gaps that's present in games such as these, like how mass amounts of gold can help finish a ship in one turn.

AngleWyrm wrote:
So is Dune an arid or a desert planet? Maybe there should be a special planet modifier that gives +Dust but -Approval for giant deadly worms. And a chance dice roll thing to generate a random hero upon colonization.

How about Unhelpful Fremen locals?

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AngleWyrm

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AngleWyrm

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13 years ago

May 14, 2012, 9:55:08 AM

So is Dune an arid or a desert planet? Maybe there should be a special planet modifier that gives +Dust but -Approval for giant deadly worms. And a chance dice roll thing to generate a random hero upon colonization.

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Mansen

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Mansen

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13 years ago

May 10, 2012, 10:04:39 AM

Dreepa wrote:
Though one quick question: How does the population by itself "generate" dust?

Keep in mind that 1 population is the equivalent of some larger number - Lets say a million workers. So you'd have plenty people to divide between agricultural, geological, dust refining and science work.

And yes - I also thought melange when I saw what the currency was named. And it makes sense to use a rare material used by every race as a universal form of currency. It has been like that on earth since for ever. Romans used to pay their soldiers in salt as I Recall (It helped prolong the life of meat before fridges existed)

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White_Mage

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White_Mage

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13 years ago

May 10, 2012, 8:40:57 AM

cdog wrote:
The Dust Melange is only produced on every planet!

I guess The Endless perfected the Axlotl Tank before they disappeared

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VIPznork

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13 years ago

May 10, 2012, 8:29:22 AM

wow that was the first thing you thought off spice? if you serche youll se that was one of the things we talked alot about in the good old days.

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Inquisitioner

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Inquisitioner

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13 years ago

May 10, 2012, 8:19:03 AM

Dreepa wrote:
Though one quick question: How does the population by itself "generate" dust?

Good question. Guess you use em all as miners during the night and during the day as industry workers

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Dreepa

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Dreepa

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13 years ago

May 10, 2012, 8:14:26 AM

Though one quick question: How does the population by itself "generate" dust?

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DuddBudda

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DuddBudda

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13 years ago

May 7, 2012, 3:54:46 AM

dust isn't a strictly currency in Endless Space - it's a raw material that's precious because it catalyses latent 'talents', a lá Spice

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DuddBudda

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DuddBudda

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13 years ago

May 7, 2012, 12:00:28 AM

Just a wondering on the inspiration

as RPS points out Dust == Spice

but am I alone in thinking of His Dark Materials?

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DuddBudda

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DuddBudda

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13 years ago

May 7, 2012, 3:40:29 AM

nefloyd wrote:
In the Dune universe, "Spice" is the nickname given to Melange

all of my facepalms

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nefloyd

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13 years ago

May 7, 2012, 3:33:27 AM

DuddBudda wrote:
Spice is from Dune, if Melange is a construct therein I have forgotten it, but if not, wut?

In the Dune universe, "Spice" is the nickname given to Melange

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cdog

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cdog

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13 years ago

May 7, 2012, 3:20:57 AM

The Dust Melange is only produced on every planet!

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Oleyo

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Oleyo

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13 years ago

May 7, 2012, 2:11:14 AM

I immediately thought of the Spice from Dune. Of course, I just finished re-reading it before stumbling onto this game on Steam.

One could certainly do worse as a source of inspiration than the guru of feudal space-faring culture that is Dune. I would consider any comparisons a compliment and move on.

BTW, I am loving the game. The interface is so slick it makes me go "Aaaaah". THIS is why I game on the PC.

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maceman

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maceman

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13 years ago

May 7, 2012, 2:03:30 AM

Dust is nanobots from teh Endless so not really applicable to any of the above, no?

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DuddBudda

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DuddBudda

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13 years ago

May 7, 2012, 1:41:35 AM

Ashbery76 wrote:
I do not see much in common with Melange at all.

pardon?

Spice is from Dune, if Melange is a construct therein I have forgotten it, but if not, wut?

His Dark Materials, Phillip Pullman's trilogy, has a thing called Dust (Dark Materials/Dark Matter) that is a reflection of conciousness within the cosmos. Again, no relation to Melange.

pelase explain

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Edraii

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Edraii

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13 years ago

May 7, 2012, 12:48:22 AM

I also like how the galactic currency seems to be a deadly superpower enduing drug

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BlazerMortis

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BlazerMortis

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13 years ago

May 7, 2012, 12:38:38 AM

interesting. hadn't thought about that.

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Monarch

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Monarch

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13 years ago

May 7, 2012, 12:30:49 AM

It really reminds me of Spice from the Dune series. However, I like how the devs took the time to make a viable galactic currency other than the generic "credits"

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Igncom1

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Igncom1

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13 years ago

May 7, 2012, 12:19:37 AM

Well it's kinda like a technological stuff that people can use as well as machines, personnally i think its a kind of nanite.

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Ashbery76

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Ashbery76

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13 years ago

May 7, 2012, 12:04:53 AM

I do not see much in common with Melange at all.

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