[Discussion - Poll] The Empty ES Poll

Tikigod

Old Remnant

22 400g2g pts

12 years ago

Jun 2, 2012, 11:22:32 AM

Early game things do feel kind of empty, but that's really how it should be... the players are still fledgling empires made up of a handful of solarsystems.

As you get further into mid and late game however, empires expand and what was previously empty areas become potential border disputes, outposts that need defending until they're colonies, moving fleets around etc.

Perhaps it would be nice if there were a few more options in the shape of empire deployable assets to spice things up a bit so everything isn't just solar systems and fleets but there's time to add in more tools after the core is stable and balanced and the game has been released (most likely in the form of expansion products)... as such things aren't really critical to game enjoyment but rather icing that belongs in the "It would be nice to add this isn't release if the team got all their work done a month ahead of schedule" pile in my opinion.

VIPXorUnison

Stellar

Fan of the Endless Universe since the ES Alpha. Attended the Gamescon 2012/2015/2016/2017.

VIPXorUnison

Stellar

41 700g2g pts

12 years ago

Jun 4, 2012, 4:13:31 AM

I still agree that ES feels a little too empty, but we are on the right track. So far if all the relevant suggestions which have been made are added to the game it will feel a lot different.

cirving4444

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cirving4444

Newcomer

12 years ago

Jun 4, 2012, 3:47:34 AM

I think it would be kinda cool for a random event where your empire found a drifting endless orbiting a planet that was damaged but through breakthroughs in science and a little bit of dust you get a powerful ship. This could be a rare event, and the ship wouldn't exactly be game breaking. The event could go like this " You empire, after exploring a system, found a derelict endless ship orbiting a planet. Through a series of intense research programs and a small upkeep fee your empire was able to bring the ship back online giving you a small advantage in future engagements." The upkeep could be like 5 dust a turn and you have an option to choose yes or no.

TheManInRoomFive

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TheManInRoomFive

Newcomer

12 years ago

Jun 3, 2012, 9:44:50 PM

I think you should ad some utterly useless objects to the star system. Just to create some vararity. Also more than 6 planets would be nice. Could be cool if you could find our solar system in the game.

smitty1110

Heretic

smitty1110

Heretic

18 400g2g pts

12 years ago

Jun 3, 2012, 7:46:22 PM

It would be so hard to keep track of everything if there were that many planets. You'd spend most of your time cycling through your planets/systems just trying to keep track of what everything had. I don't know about you, but that level of micromanagement doesn't seem fun to me...

Nimrod

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Nimrod

Newcomer

12 years ago

Jun 3, 2012, 11:11:54 AM

haha yeah that DEFINATELY doesn't make any sense, you could make a solar system with about 200 planets in it :S its still an awesome game though!

GrilledCheezz

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GrilledCheezz

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12 years ago

Jun 3, 2012, 7:10:02 AM

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supersoaker9

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supersoaker9

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13 700g2g pts

12 years ago

Jun 2, 2012, 4:07:12 PM

Apart from the brilliant advances in graphics, ES feels like its a game that could have been released in the mid- to late- 90's. Gaming-wise, I don't remember one game from the 90's that didn't fell empty compared to some games now-a-days.

As for a cure, the way the galaxy map is presented in addition to the turn-base nature of the game may preclude many of the "living" elements that work for other games.

Nimrod wrote:
... manage things by solar system and not by planet it doesn't really make any sense.

Try "Sins of a Solar Empire": 100+ planetary bodies in one system makes even less sense.

Nimrod

Newcomer

Nimrod

Newcomer

12 years ago

Jun 2, 2012, 3:25:14 PM

It does feel like theres something missing from it and an empty space to be filled (new game title maybe? :P) I think it needs more planet interaction, I don't like how you manage things by solar system and not by planet it doesn't really make any sense.

TheManInRoomFive

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TheManInRoomFive

Newcomer

12 years ago

Jun 2, 2012, 2:01:16 PM

If you mean that it feels vast and empty, then no. No many turns passes by until you meet either pirates or other factions. I think that the size of the maps should be increased a lot. Thus making it possible to have more crazy things. A pirate system. Single system/planet factions (like civ v). All these things make the universe feel more alive, and the way you handle these encounters should shape what your empire will eventually become.

Araithiel

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Araithiel

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16 400g2g pts

12 years ago

Jun 1, 2012, 3:05:33 PM

Many people pointed out how very flawed my last poll was which is most likely attributed to the fact that I clearly wasn't very smart at the time....in any case I remade it so you can all have your vote.

PanH

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PanH

Newcomer

21 800g2g pts

12 years ago

Jun 2, 2012, 8:50:37 AM

Nosferatiel wrote:
The limit of commandpoints (and so how many ships can fight at once) is extendable via technologies in the left techtree. The maximum is about 20 for e.g. cravers, I think.

It's actually 23, if i'm right, and that can make quite a bunch of ships (and tons if you destroyer-kamikaze rush)

Else, well, this is space, so it's empty, but it feels right. Maybe a bit more visual than everything dark, though.

MODNosferatiel

Informer

"God's in his heaven, all's right with the world." Nerv Motto, Neon Genesis Evangelion

MODNosferatiel

Informer

47 300g2g pts

12 years ago

Jun 2, 2012, 1:54:07 AM

Micromanagment wrote:
I have not played the game too much, but from what I can tell the largest battles you can have are 5 vs 5, and in my opinion that gives me the empty feeling. I think if they gave you an option for immense space battles, it would really lighten up the game.

The limit of commandpoints (and so how many ships can fight at once) is extendable via technologies in the left techtree. The maximum is about 20 for e.g. cravers, I think.

Micromanagment

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Micromanagment

Newcomer

12 years ago

Jun 2, 2012, 12:40:51 AM

I have not played the game too much, but from what I can tell the largest battles you can have are 5 vs 5, and in my opinion that gives me the empty feeling. I think if they gave you an option for immense space battles, it would really lighten up the game.

MalodorousMonkey

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MalodorousMonkey

Newcomer

12 years ago

Jun 1, 2012, 11:51:48 PM

Well it is still in alpha, right? I mean, ideally, more elements of diplomacy will be introduced, and I personally hope they add some type of espionage system. Any thing to make the game feel a little less like a straight-up war simulator.

ComradePaddock

Newcomer

ComradePaddock

Newcomer

12 years ago

Jun 1, 2012, 5:24:48 PM

meh when your not fighting an enemy its pretty empty

n18991c

Old

n18991c

Old

13 100g2g pts

12 years ago

Jun 1, 2012, 5:13:58 PM

and here we go again

tripolar16

Addict World

Always and forever................

tripolar16

Addict World

16 400g2g pts

12 years ago

Jun 1, 2012, 4:41:28 PM

mmm yes some times it does feel empty.... but planetary evolution will solve this a little. I will love to see some things moving in the galaxy though like comets or nebulas

MODNosferatiel

Informer

"God's in his heaven, all's right with the world." Nerv Motto, Neon Genesis Evangelion

MODNosferatiel

Informer

47 300g2g pts

12 years ago

Jun 1, 2012, 3:58:28 PM

Okay, I'll close down your old one, then.