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May 4, 2012, 6:18:50 PM
I keep going to diplomacy mode to see what my options are with other races, but never see any choice but "declare war" even when I'm at peace with them. Has diplomacy even been implemented as yet?
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May 4, 2012, 6:50:52 PM
You unlock more treaties through research on the left side of the tech tree.
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May 4, 2012, 6:51:21 PM
Diplomacy options must be researched - it's the research tree on the right! It unlocks all kinds of things - alliances, trades, etc.
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May 4, 2012, 7:48:31 PM
OK, well we'll have to dig into the tree more I guess. Thanks for the clarification. Though I have to say that on a huge map with 5 players, by turn 100 I've already been attacked by two races and have to put all my research into military or risk annihilation, so there is no time to research a defense pact, alliance or even peace treaty. Also have no idea why they declared war on me, other than that perhaps the AI knew I was not focusing on the military until then.
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May 4, 2012, 10:52:32 PM
gunnergoz wrote:
OK, well we'll have to dig into the tree more I guess. Thanks for the clarification. Though I have to say that on a huge map with 5 players, by turn 100 I've already been attacked by two races and have to put all my research into military or risk annihilation, so there is no time to research a defense pact, alliance or even peace treaty. Also have no idea why they declared war on me, other than that perhaps the AI knew I was not focusing on the military until then.




The peace treaty is actually one of the first techs in the left side techtree. You should have gotten that by turn 30 or earlier, normally.
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May 5, 2012, 1:55:15 AM
Some AI hate you so much they refuse to make peace treaties with you. Atleast that's my experience.
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May 5, 2012, 2:40:32 AM
@Nosferatiel: Making any one tech by turn 30 or any turn sort of depends upon if the player has some particular strategy or not...if one is a generalist and covers all the low-lying fruit first, then you are correct. But if one beelines towards a specific desired higher-end tech, this may not be possible. The game should not reward any one strategy more than another, but they all have should have different rewards and consequences. In my current game, I specifically left myself with only two opponents in a huge galaxy so I could focus on peaceful empire expansion without need for arming up. Of course, I met the hostile guys soon enough...and they were not happy to see me at all. The game does challenge one in that respect. Unless you play a sandbox mode with no opponents (except perhaps pirates) you are going to be at war sooner or later with the AI races. They are mostly disagreeable folk, except for the Sophons. And they are not the ones bugging me now, naturally. It is an interesting game, indeed and will take time to master.
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May 5, 2012, 6:02:46 AM
AI at the moment is somewhat simple. It'll refined over the next alpha/beta steps.
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May 5, 2012, 6:38:03 PM
I'm having issues with diplomacy as well: Althought I'm having a warm relationship (+141) with an alien race and have researched the necessary tech up to Vocation-oriented Society, I'm unable to propose an Alliance.

The only option available is "Declare war". Am I missing something or is this just an unfortunate bug?
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May 5, 2012, 8:35:07 PM
sahneknuffi wrote:
I'm having issues with diplomacy as well: Althought I'm having a warm relationship (+141) with an alien race and have researched the necessary tech up to Vocation-oriented Society, I'm unable to propose an Alliance.

The only option available is "Declare war". Am I missing something or is this just an unfortunate bug?




The whole diplomacy system as you might have seen has a lot to be desired. Perhaps you need a 150 relation or you encountered a bug.
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May 6, 2012, 5:37:31 AM
The Diplomacy options are present, but require significant development. It would be tragic if diplomacy was not turned into a joy to use.
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May 6, 2012, 9:20:22 AM
As we are currently, its still full with little bugs.

For instance you cant positively influence other species no matter how many gifts you throw at them.

When 2 systems of different species connect they right away start to think negatively of you and soon start a war.



So... no. Its not really working yet.
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