chromodynamics wrote:
Its a great game for a newbie to 4x. Clean and easy to use UI. Far more polished than most others. Very streamlined in terms of management of your empire aswell, wont feel overwhelming with hundreds of options to tweak. However, as with all 4x, the learning curve is steep, be prepared to put in some time learning mechanics on the newbie difficulty.

Well said, it's easy to learn for beginners, takes some time to learn, but is worth the fun you will have!

Andarilho wrote:
Thanks to you all!

Well, I hope you will like the game. If you have any question, you know you can always count on the community!

Thanks to you all!

chromodynamics wrote:
There is a manual, its mostly the same as the tutorial though, with some extra info.



http://cdn.steampowered.com/Manuals/208140/Endless%20Space%20User%20Manual%20Master%20EN.PDF?t=1341773294

Well, you learn something new every day!

Fenrakk101 wrote:
There's just the tutorial. It's enough to get you started. But be aware that there are many things the tutorial doesn't cover, which you'll either come across as you play or you'll figure out through the forums.

There is a manual, its mostly the same as the tutorial though, with some extra info.



http://cdn.steampowered.com/Manuals/208140/Endless%20Space%20User%20Manual%20Master%20EN.PDF?t=1341773294

Andarilho wrote:
Also, do you know if is there some game manual, or just the in-game tutorial?

There's just the tutorial. It's enough to get you started. But be aware that there are many things the tutorial doesn't cover, which you'll either come across as you play or you'll figure out through the forums.

Great. I'll really to start with Endless Space.



Also, do you know if is there some game manual, or just the in-game tutorial?

I highly advocate Endless Space as your first! The UI really goes a long way in making it an accessible game! It's also crisp, clean, and new!



If you're into retrogaming, Master of Orion 1+2 and Alpha Centauri (Both are on GoG) are ones that I highly recommend picking up too-- once you have a better grasp and have decided if 4x gaming is for you! Orion 2 especially, I feel like it's the yardstick for the genre!

Andarilho wrote:
I would like to thank you all for all your kindness and help.



Thanks for your suggestions, also. When you say that Endless Space is not in real time, this means that even the battles does not happens in real time?



Also, I was thinking in to start in the 4X genre through Sword of the Stars II. I'm happy I found Endless Space and this community. I just found strange (sorry my ignorance, here) a game with so many openness and large universe be contained in around 2GB!

The battles play out in real time, but they're not *actually* in real time. The way it works is, the battle is played out automatically, with your ships moving towards the enemy ships and firing. There are three phases of combat, and you can choose a card for each phase, with the cards applying abilities or effects (some will heal your ship and lower your damage, and some will increase your damage but lower your defense). So, you ca choose the three cards at the beginning of the battle, and it won't take any further input.

I would like to thank you all for all your kindness and help.



Thanks for your suggestions, also. When you say that Endless Space is not in real time, this means that even the battles does not happens in real time?



Also, I was thinking in to start in the 4X genre through Sword of the Stars II. I'm happy I found Endless Space and this community. I just found strange (sorry my ignorance, here) a game with so many openness and large universe be contained in around 2GB!

Hi,



I purchased Endless Space, and always wanted to play a 4X Game. I loved the informations about the game, screenshots, videos, etc.



But, I have never played a title from this genre, and one of the reasons of my interest in Endless Space, also, is the fact it is the first one. The first in a franchise, let's say.



So, in your opinions, is Endless Space appropriate for a total newbie in 4X games? I have already played strategy games (RTS and turn-based) but no 4X.



Thanks in advance for any help.

Its a great game for a newbie to 4x. Clean and easy to use UI. Far more polished than most others. Very streamlined in terms of management of your empire aswell, wont feel overwhelming with hundreds of options to tweak. However, as with all 4x, the learning curve is steep, be prepared to put in some time learning mechanics on the newbie difficulty.

Trolls aside, in Endless Space the information is generally easy to find, with tooltips and such. I highly suggest you play your first game until the end, without worrying about errors made. It's the best way to learn how to play, and puts into perspective the early techs, improvements, etc. Once you get a mega-system, with all improvements, terraformed fully-populated planets, you know a little better what to aim for.

Andarilho, I think this is a good game to have a first experience in 4X games. It is so, because the game is very organized, intuitive, cool and it is not over-cluttered as some other games.

In the beginning you may have some trouble adapting to this game's style, but you will surelly learn how to play and will soon understand the basics. However, the tutorial is not as easy as you might expect, because it is only a bunch of texts (which are understandable) spreaded across the screen, without any speech or so.

This 4X game seems a lot more open for new players than other games in the genre, like Sins of a Solar Empire. it's also much easier to manage this game as opposed to SoaSE, considering how often there seems to be just too much stuff going on in Sins for you to figure it all out and react to it all (at least when you're starting out). Endless Space is turn based, and there's also only so much stuff that can be going on. Basically: Like others said, easy to learn, difficult to master.



Although if you enjoy the game and want to try a real-time 4X game I definitely recommend Sins of a Solar Empire. You can get Trinity on Steam now, and it's much more difficult to learn, but once you have it all figured out you can start working on improving yourself.

Shivetya wrote:
Sure.

1) AI is braid dead so you won't have to worry about winning

2) Tech trees are essentially fixed progression so once you figure out the ideal progression your set for life of the game

3) Once you learn which techs are important, see point 2, you have to work hard to lose.

4) Fortunately they have remove 3/4s of the micromanagement that plagues games like this,

1. A smallish chunk of the modding community is working on fixing each of those problems (separately, not for one big mod)



2. You're making the generalization that all players are as good as you. I'm not that good and I do have trouble doing well in this game.



To Andarilho, this is my first 4X game and I'd say it was pretty easy to learn the basics, but it's going to take a long time to master.

Andarilho wrote:
Hi,



I purchased Endless Space, and always wanted to play a 4X Game. I loved the informations about the game, screenshots, videos, etc.



But, I have never played a title from this genre, and one of the reasons of my interest in Endless Space, also, is the fact it is the first one. The first in a franchise, let's say.



So, in your opinions, is Endless Space appropriate for a total newbie in 4X games? I have already played strategy games (RTS and turn-based) but no 4X.



Thanks in advance for any help.

Sure.

1) AI is braid dead so you won't have to worry about winning

2) Tech trees are essentially fixed progression so once you figure out the ideal progression your set for life of the game

3) Once you learn which techs are important, see point 2, you have to work hard to lose.

4) Fortunately they have remove 3/4s of the micromanagement that plagues games like this,

Well, it is hard to learn and has a steep learning curve. On the other hand, most things can be handled by looking at mouseovers and asking people (who generally even answer nicely).

You'll need endurance and a few tips, but it is manageable.



So first tip by me: Go to the empire screen (most upper left symbol usable on galaxy screen) and slide the tax slider down, until your empire is happy.

This advances your food/industry/science production, while hampering your dust income, but it pays off especially in the beginning, since your population grows a lot faster.

I would say yes, endless space seems to be fairly intuitive in is working and is easy to learn.



And of course, hard to master.