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3 years ago
Aug 26, 2021, 4:00:22 PM

Everyone always praises the production focus, getting a production culture, getting production tenets from religion, building lots of production districts.  And don't get me wrong, production is still absolutely amazing and critical.  However, I just played a game where I focused on cold hard cash.  Well specifically I took Ghanians and Venetians.  As in any game, building those cultural districts is essential - don't build those in every territory you nerf yourself.  So I did, and I started buying everything I was building.  I had so much cash that I'd have to find ways to get rid of it before I tried to sign treaties or other civs were asking me for thousands in compenstation.  Oh, and the most OP part of a cash focus... Inherited Land in the Land Rights civic.  It is totally imbalanced.  Where you used to have to fork over hundreds of Influence to expand, now it is chump change.  Super fun.


This is on Empire and I'm still crushing it.  Will move up to Civilization next game.



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3 years ago
Aug 26, 2021, 5:42:23 PM

I think that is a great thing from Humankind. You can have different kind of methods of doing things. I just wish it's balanced more.


Right now, buying stuffs with money oriented civ is very cheap while buying it with other civ is stupidly expensive.


This makes players do min-max more and give less incentive for a role playing kind of playthrough. Hence less variety in gameplay (because you need to pick more or less the same culture path), hence getting boring fast in a game that promotes more than 1 million culture combination.

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3 years ago
Aug 26, 2021, 6:00:40 PM

Money helps but if you have trouble with Science or Influence, there might be some surprises coming your way from any Expert AI you have included in your game. Keep in mind that difficulty is also influenced by the AI Personas you chose, not only by the level of game difficulty.

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3 years ago
Aug 27, 2021, 4:42:53 AM

I've come to  realize this!  Money is more than just stored production.  If it was, that would be comparing Apples to Apples, and production would usually win, unless there is nothing worthwhile to build in a moment, saving the production for a future case, when the upgraded version of it is worthwhile to build.  Except, money has an apple + an orange function - its not just comparing apples to apples.  Arguablly in this situation, some science FIMS should have been allocated more previously, averting the crisis of nothing worthwhile to build, unless it makes sense to not get a technology to  build something, and wait on it,  being flexible of a now and future state with something worthwhile to build.


So,  the additional benefits of money:

1.  Buying tradable resources seems always worthwhile during a peace, unless war is seriously considered, i think.   (Diplomacy)

2.  During war, money allows bigger armies, because of its maintaince.   (Diplomacy)

3.  Reacting to in game events with reserve money, like Gamble, Adapt, or Protect will avoid taking a "loan" for money, where to pay it back is at a 0% interest rate, and stability I think?  Losing stability from a lack of a minimum balance in the money savings acct isn't a good loan to have, I think.   (Luck)


The question, I have is how much money is needed for  Diplomacy and Narritive Luck?  What should the minimum balance be?  Otherwise, I think,  I prefer production instead of money FIMS, given something to build and science to balance it.

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