Late Game is a joke...

last game i was polluting about 15 per turn, game stopped 10 turns early because ai was polluting like crazy, i literally didnt built any industrial complex, planted shitload of trees and built as many dams as i could, its a complete joke at this point

yeah, cause AI just spamming out Pollution and there is no way to stop it.

please fix late game! this game has so much potential, but late game kills it

Agreed.

At this point, I just don't understand why they even added the pollution system. It's not even half-baked, and they added it, what was it, like *one* week before release.

If it was so important, it should have been saved and properly tested, and then added as a free update alongside the first DLC release.

remove it and make a good DLC with world congress etc. Just look at civ and improve it :D

Siptah wrote:

sagan87 wrote:

remove it and make a good DLC with world congress etc. Just look at civ and improve it :D

Look at civ? World Congress? Remove pollution? No, please, triple no. There‘s lots of reasons to be disappointed with how pollution works currently, but that doesn‘t mean it needs to go, nor that there needs to be a tradeoff for other (much less necessary and interesting) systems. And to the post above: there‘s no need to hyperbole and tell outright lies to make a point that has been made dozens of times yet and has been acknowledged as something that will be examined in the future by the devs in Public (who also said it won’t be a quick and easy fix). Pollution was of course not added a week before release. 

i just said remove it for now and include it with some features. Whats the sense of pollution right now? 

Melliores wrote:

Pollution serves the purpose to provide a trade-off for all those powerful late game infrastructure buildings and the number of Makers districts. The AI having built more districts than you usually makes a lot more pollution. There is also no quick fix about it - even if you tweak the thresholds and penalties, on larger maps with more AI opponents they can still break the new threshold.

The AI needs to have its logic improved and take into account pollution generation in the late game. Also any change to the whole system has to take into account how to teach the AI to play around or with it - as you said, the biggest polluter is usually the AI.

and you cant interact with AI about Pollution, thats the worst part. At least give us diplomacy or war options.