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Best Industrial Aesthete culture? Italians or Austro-Hungarians?

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3 years ago
Oct 20, 2021, 9:45:47 PM

The Austro-Hungarians seem to have a better Trait but the Italians seems to have a MUCH better emblematic district.  I'm going for the Aesthete achievements so need to get 3 aesthete stars in every era. 

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3 years ago
Oct 21, 2021, 10:16:09 AM

It's tough one. I would lean toward the Autro-Hungarian, because the bonuses if their disctricts are less "placement dependant" if I remember correctly ? I suppose either one could be the "good choice", given the current game you are in.

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3 years ago
Oct 21, 2021, 3:22:23 PM

I think the operahaus is great, though it's not needed in every game. Whenever I pick the austro-hungarians, its for the stability bonus, not the influence. The teatro is a good ED, but I don't really value commons quarters in most games. 

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3 years ago
Oct 21, 2021, 7:51:02 PM

If your objective is to just get a lot of influence, the italians are the way to go. And honestly after playing with them the Italians are probably better overall. The per Traders+Researchers influence bonus is insane. Also if you combine their legacy trait with the civic that gives -50% commons industry cost, it means you can actually completely surround all your theathros with commons quarters. When i did it a commons quarter costed around 1/10 of a normal district, and those give you a extra 1 influence as well. So yeah not only do you get unlimited influence, but you also get unlimited stability since their LT makes it so you get 10 stability even without any adjacency bonuses. I would almost say the Italians are OP, however stability and influence are not as useful at the point at witch you get them. Also this probably doesn't matter to your playthrough, but i find their unique unit to be actually really good.

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3 years ago
Oct 22, 2021, 1:54:32 AM

Yeah this is what I did - I got to 3 Aesthete stars so quickly with the combo of Ming / Italians that I didn't even need to finish building all the Italian emblematic districts. And then the game glitched and freezes at the same turn 248 every reload, no matter how far I go back. So my game is over.  Worse yet, I was doing it to get the Trophy for 18 Aesthete stars, but I forgot to read the known bugs list and this is a known bug.  Exactly zero of the trophies related to freaking stars work at all so fk this game. If the trophy doesn't freaking work HIDE IT until you get the bug fixed.

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3 years ago
Oct 22, 2021, 4:22:40 AM
Oddible wrote:

Yeah this is what I did - I got to 3 Aesthete stars so quickly with the combo of Ming / Italians that I didn't even need to finish building all the Italian emblematic districts. And then the game glitched and freezes at the same turn 248 every reload, no matter how far I go back. So my game is over.  Worse yet, I was doing it to get the Trophy for 18 Aesthete stars, but I forgot to read the known bugs list and this is a known bug.  Exactly zero of the trophies related to freaking stars work at all so fk this game. If the trophy doesn't freaking work HIDE IT until you get the bug fixed.

That's a shame, but hey if you had fun playing the game there is that at least and here is hoping for the October update to fix things. But i must say it's so bizarre to see so many people complaining about not being able to finish games. I think i have finished about 15 games now without any issues.

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3 years ago
Oct 22, 2021, 1:20:38 PM
Oddible wrote:

Yeah this is what I did - I got to 3 Aesthete stars so quickly with the combo of Ming / Italians that I didn't even need to finish building all the Italian emblematic districts. And then the game glitched and freezes at the same turn 248 every reload, no matter how far I go back. So my game is over.  Worse yet, I was doing it to get the Trophy for 18 Aesthete stars, but I forgot to read the known bugs list and this is a known bug.  Exactly zero of the trophies related to freaking stars work at all so fk this game. If the trophy doesn't freaking work HIDE IT until you get the bug fixed.

Honestly, I always pick Ming for the massive stability + influence boost their districts give, and then choose a completely different Affinity for the Industrial + Contemporary Eras. If you build as many Grand Teahouses as your territories can possibly fit, you'll keep getting more influence from each one for every new district you build for the duration of the rest of the game.

Ming outclass every other Aesthete culture.

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3 years ago
Oct 22, 2021, 1:55:52 PM

SmileyD wrote:
That's a shame, but hey if you had fun playing the game there is that at least and here is hoping for the October update to fix things. But i must say it's so bizarre to see so many people complaining about not being able to finish games. I think i have finished about 15 games now without any issues.

Well that's easy to explain, the people finishing games don't usually talk about it, the one's not finishing are complaining (and hopefully the 28 patch will fix it for a lot of them)

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3 years ago
Oct 22, 2021, 2:59:50 PM
Krikkitone wrote:

SmileyD wrote:
That's a shame, but hey if you had fun playing the game there is that at least and here is hoping for the October update to fix things. But i must say it's so bizarre to see so many people complaining about not being able to finish games. I think i have finished about 15 games now without any issues.

Well that's easy to explain, the people finishing games don't usually talk about it, the one's not finishing are complaining (and hopefully the 28 patch will fix it for a lot of them)

I've finished probably 6 games.  I've had to abandon 2 due to never ending turn issues.

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3 years ago
Oct 22, 2021, 3:21:03 PM
Oddible wrote:
I've finished probably 6 games.  I've had to abandon 2 due to never ending turn issues.

Curios at what era they abondoned?

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3 years ago
Oct 24, 2021, 7:37:50 PM
VDmitry wrote:

Curios at what era they abondoned?

Both were later game, super frustrating.  Industrial or later.

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