I see the new DLC coming out.  I won't be buying it, nor giving a penny more to this game until they fix all the low hanging fruit stuff in the game.  A Message filter for example (omg, I am SO sick getting spammed with pop growth/starvation messages).   Tooltips that show EXACTLY what the increase in productions would be if you constructed a particular building.   How about showing what army units are in your city WHILE your in the city screen.  And so much more.  And most importantly, for gosh sakes, cover up the bald spot on the top of that guy's head in the industrial era video!!!

I was about to create a similar thread, I don't understand this decision and it really worries me for the future of Studio. The game is in a dire state, most of the playerbase went back to Civilization while 2K games announces they would stop their updates on it, and here are the results :

And now Humankind comes with paid content that don't add anything to gameplay, don't talk about fixing any of the current issues, and think they can get away with it ?
Back when I was supporting Amplitude for the making of Endless Legend, never would I have imagined such a thing even remotely possible. Remember how every EL/ES expansion used to be meaningful ? Sure they did release a few small DLCs here and there after several expansions and years after release. Humankind was released 4 month ago... 

It also worries me in regard of Amplitude's priority : they worked on implementing new cultures while they know there are huge problems unresolved, which mean the priority is to make money, no matter the state of the game ? Is it really what became of the Magna Opus ?
Anyway, I'll stop rumbling here. And as internet saying goes, my disapointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined.

I feel the same. I was so hyped for the game, I even preordered it. I had so much fun in EL and ES 2, but Humankind still lacks. I played Humankind for 40h and after 30h it became repetitive.
They even delayed the game to make it more "polished". The game is still not fixed und the promised first day mod is still missing.
I will not buy any DLC, till they fix their game and deliver what was promised.

While I do not know of Amplitude's internal processes, I am quite sure this DLC has mostly kept their non-software teams busy.

It is evident with the mod tools that the game was designed to easily have such content added (scalability).

Is it rather the symbolism people are mad about? I don't get it.

Telenil wrote:

I like the concept of culture packs, but the DLC didn't pick the most exciting cultures, IMO. I'd have to see if they bring interesting options to the gameplay.

I had that same thought but I think it makes sense for them to keep the cultures with more complex or new gameplay for a DLC that expands on that area of gameplay. For example it would make sense for them to include cultures that have a new core mechanic around religious influence for a religion overhaul expansion (if that ever happens, of course).

Hello everyone,
Thank you for your feedback on this. As always, the DLC release will be accompanied by a free patch. And yes indeed it is not always the same teams working on adding new cultures vs. bug fixing

One of the reasons we are starting with a smaller DLC and not a bigger expansion is precisely so that the devs have more time to work on the most requested features and fixes.

We totally understand your concerns though... during Amplified next week we will be giving more detail as to what exactly will be worked in the future months so that we can have more transparency. 

Thanks again for your patience.

Spacetroll

This news does not make me want to come back to play this game again.

I really can't wait to know what new features and mechanics they plan to introduce in the future. There is so much I'd like to see in the game! :)

GediminasLM wrote:

I really can't wait to know what new features and mechanics they plan to introduce in the future. There is so much I'd like to see in the game! :)

We will have to wait for that, the game is not even a year old.

Maybe I'm more easily satisfied than many of you. I love this game and find it immersing. Yes, there are many valid points made by you all, and I'm sure that improvements will come with time. When the various iterations of Civilization came out, they were not perfect either and received a lot of criticism as well. I can understand the frustration some people feel when the game doesn't feature the perfection they desire, but it is still just a game and will, I'm sure, continue to improve.

They really should have withhold this DLC until they finish the core game first.

You can't play a match of this game and tell me with a straight face that it is a finished product, when it's painfully obvious that it isn't.

The numbers used in everything in the later era are flat out placeholders, none of them have been calculated or tested in any way. This is absurdly clear.

And now you offer us a DLC with more events? For what? So we can get spammed with even more meaningless events that reward us with "30 gold" when we're making 2500 gold per turn?

I'm looking forward to it. Of course, game needs improvements and fixes. But it is fully playable! I've spent 200 hours in a dozen games and want more.

I remember Civ 6. For me it wasn't playable until the first expansion (15 months later)! In the meantime they released 6 DLC's.

Ellye wrote:

And now you offer us a DLC with more events? For what? So we can get spammed with even more meaningless events that reward us with "30 gold" when we're making 2500 gold per turn?

I really disagree with half of what you said on the events thing. I do not feel like I'm getting spammed with events. Other games (Old World, Paradox...) have many more events and events make the game fun. Saying they're adding 15 new events is nothing - each biweekly update Old World adds about that many.

They do need to revamp what sort of trade-offs come with the events. In particular I would like to see permanent effects - currently all outcomes are totally forgettable. For example, there are events in Old World which add a permanent modifier to one city - so now you can remember what choice you made, differentiate cities easier and feel more immersed.

Dayvit78 wrote:

Ellye wrote:

And now you offer us a DLC with more events? For what? So we can get spammed with even more meaningless events that reward us with "30 gold" when we're making 2500 gold per turn?

I really disagree with half of what you said on the events thing. I do not feel like I'm getting spammed with events. Other games (Old World, Paradox...) have many more events and events make the game fun. Saying they're adding 15 new events is nothing - each biweekly update Old World adds about that many.

They do need to revamp what sort of trade-offs come with the events. In particular I would like to see permanent effects - currently all outcomes are totally forgettable. For example, there are events in Old World which add a permanent modifier to one city - so now you can remember what choice you made, differentiate cities easier and feel more immersed.

Oh, the reason why I called them spam was indeed not because of quantity, but because of how inconsequential they are.

Dayvit78 wrote:

Ellye wrote:

And now you offer us a DLC with more events? For what? So we can get spammed with even more meaningless events that reward us with "30 gold" when we're making 2500 gold per turn?

I really disagree with half of what you said on the events thing. I do not feel like I'm getting spammed with events. Other games (Old World, Paradox...) have many more events and events make the game fun. Saying they're adding 15 new events is nothing - each biweekly update Old World adds about that many.

They do need to revamp what sort of trade-offs come with the events. In particular I would like to see permanent effects - currently all outcomes are totally forgettable. For example, there are events in Old World which add a permanent modifier to one city - so now you can remember what choice you made, differentiate cities easier and feel more immersed.

I agree with adding permanent changes instead of turn based. Like the first event you get which adds permanent food, production or science.