I feel like I've mentioned this before, but I can't find the original thread (if there was one).

So I had a problem with the AI converting my provinces. They love to build all their holy sites in one territory leading to massive faith output to all neighboring provinces.

I went to war, took that city wth holy sites and then ransacked all of them, otherwise my empire would have continued to be converted. So far so good. Then he keeps attacking me and there's another war. His other city now has 7 holy sites of his original religion. Is this WAD? That you can continue to build holy sites if your religion doesn't have the max number of holy sites? If I didn't ransack, would be still be able to build them? What are you supposed to do when you have so many non-state religion holy sites? Also the fact that he spent so much on building holy sites and attacking me when he should have been building up his economy to have a nice army.

Last point. I think the easy thing would be to have a "must have X religion as state religion" grievance. But every time I do that, they seem to convert back almost instantaenously. Is this WAD? Shouldn't there be some sort of timer on the ability to convert?

Wait, holy sites still output the faith of the previous religion, even if you control them?

Yutterh wrote:

Wait, holy sites still output the faith of the previous religion, even if you control them?

Yeah, I'm pretty sure Holy Sites output faith of the religion they were built as.  Most other districts (EQs that generate faith, territory centres spreading "Shamanism/Polytheism", faith spread through civics) spread your State Religion, but I think Holy Sites are locked in when built.  I'd love to see their icon colour-coded on the map in religious view.

RedSirus wrote:

Yutterh wrote:

Wait, holy sites still output the faith of the previous religion, even if you control them?

Yeah, I'm pretty sure Holy Sites output faith of the religion they were built as.  Most other districts (EQs that generate faith, territory centres spreading "Shamanism/Polytheism", faith spread through civics) spread your State Religion, but I think Holy Sites are locked in when built.  I'd love to see their icon colour-coded on the map in religious view.

It was confirmed in another thread yeah. Seems to apply to Wonders that count as holy sites too (unfortunately).

The whole holy site cap as a concept is kinda wonky (or at least needs much better UI), hoping that Diplomacy DLC includes a religion overhaul.

Dayvit78 wrote:

Yes, both wonders and holy sites keep the original religion of whoever built them. Other faith producing districts produce the owner (even if you're just a temporary owner during the war).

Also I have another problem. My neighboring AI adopted my religion of his own free will. And now he's stealing all my holy sites! Every time I go up a tier, I can't build a holy site because he immediately takes it to build in his land. This is NOT GOOD. I am the religious leader, I should have first dibs on holy site. (I tried uptiering at the beginning of the turn and end of turn, and he still takes it.) I am going to lose my status if he has more holy sites than me.

They can do that without being the leader?

I've had them snipe the leader status with a wonder in a game where I didn't build holy sites early, I thought that was the condition where they could build the sites. That said I've never converted to somebody else's religion so idk.