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Difference between "Treaties" and "Agreement", difference between "Hostile" and "non-Allied"

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2 years ago
Nov 10, 2022, 2:22:40 AM

Sumerians' LT has "Treaties" while Scots's LT has "Agreement". What's the difference between them? Does "Agreement" include "Treaties"?


Ethiopians' LT has "Hostile Units" while Swiss' LT has "non-Allied Units". What's the difference between them?

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2 years ago
Nov 10, 2022, 8:45:53 AM

Hey @wangxs

in fact: 

- Treaties are with Idependent People

- Agreeement are with major empires through embassies

- Hostile units are units of empire that have declared you war

- for the Swiss, I'm surprised by the "non allied" expression. It should be "non authorized". Anyway that means, people that you don't have a trreaty allowing to be in your territory


I hope it's helpfull


Have a very nice day

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2 years ago
Nov 10, 2022, 9:17:27 AM
benblond wrote:

Hey @wangxs

in fact: 

- Treaties are with Idependent People

- Agreeement are with major empires through embassies

- Hostile units are units of empire that have declared you war

- for the Swiss, I'm surprised by the "non allied" expression. It should be "non authorized". Anyway that means, people that you don't have a trreaty allowing to be in your territory


I hope it's helpfull


Have a very nice day

Thanks for your clarification!


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2 years ago
Nov 10, 2022, 6:23:09 PM
benblond wrote:
for the Swiss, I'm surprised by the "non allied" expression. It should be "non authorized". Anyway that means, people that you don't have a trreaty allowing to be in your territory

@benblond Interesting!  Do you know if this makes it expensive for armies from Expansionist empires to wander your territories, or does the Expansionist's power to ignore borders also ignore the Swiss LT?  Also, does the Swiss LT extend to its outposts?

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2 years ago
Nov 11, 2022, 9:39:37 AM

Normally the swiss LT is supposed to work against any single affinity, and it might work on every territory you control. I hope I'm not saying a mistake here but I remembered a game where it was working on outposts' territories


By the way, the Swiss are terrific : make arms agreements and your units will be so cheap to produce, and then go to war, spam them, put Demilitarization zone on your ennemies, make them suffer, generate extra leverage, Use them to do the Placate order to reduce their war score. Repeat....

When peace isn't an option anymore, war with the Swiss can be fun ^^


Have a nice weekend

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