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[Question] The new "Cultural Entente" Agreement... one sided?

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2 years ago
Jan 23, 2023, 2:39:21 PM

Hi, I'm excited to see the new "Cultural Entente" agreement (I've been asking for it for some time ^^;), and I'm curious that I'm interpreting this right:


Empire A's culture is sweeping over Empire B's territory.  Without the agreement, Empire A starts to generate war support per turn against Empire B because of influenced territories and starts to generate grievances against Empire B for "Oppressing My People".


If the two empires sign a "Cultural Entente" agreement...

  1. Empire A relinquishes its "Oppressing My People" grievances over Empire B
  2. Empire B gains a very healthy amount of food and production on the cities Empire A has cultural influence over
  3. (Turns out Empire A keeps gaining war support for "Territories Influenced" against Empire B I thought this might also be dropped, but it's not.)


Both of these benefits are good news for Empire B, so my question is.... what's in it for Empire A?  What's to be gained by the culturally dominant empire in agreeing to this

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2 years ago
Jan 23, 2023, 4:07:58 PM

I thought food/production bonuses for empire A, if it isn’t so, then there are no any sense to sign it for empire A. Have you tested it in the game?

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2 years ago
Jan 23, 2023, 5:53:35 PM

It is probably only in multiplayer games relevant when you want to support your neighbor. Last patch introduced also gifts for other player.  

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2 years ago
Jan 24, 2023, 3:41:35 PM

I had very similar thoughts, and talked to the game designers about this before release. Basically, for Empire A, it's all about the good relations. It's a sign of good will to you potential trade partners by stopping the constant "Opressing my people" grievances (though of course your influence might still influence their civics and thus global doctrines in TWR, along with any bonuses you might get for territories under your influence from Legacy traits etc.)

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2 years ago
Jan 24, 2023, 3:56:59 PM

Ok, it's all about helping your poor neighbor allies on mid / end game.

Nice addition, thanks for the answer !

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2 years ago
Jan 24, 2023, 6:46:43 PM
The-Cat-o-Nine-Tales wrote:

I had very similar thoughts, and talked to the game designers about this before release. Basically, for Empire A, it's all about the good relations. It's a sign of good will to you potential trade partners by stopping the constant "Opressing my people" grievances (though of course your influence might still influence their civics and thus global doctrines in TWR, along with any bonuses you might get for territories under your influence from Legacy traits etc.)

Thanks.  I'm really glad to have this sort of entente — when two empires are really close, and share borders, trade, etc., it's almost inevitable that one will culturally overwhelm their neighbour and build up grievances against them, which doesn't feel right.  But also granting Food/Industry on the overwhelmed empire does feel weird, yeah.  I feel like the "Dominant" partner should get something (or get something too).  Maybe a "global resource" because you don't own the affected territory, so any or all of the following:

  • +10 to +30 Money per territory influenced and under the entente. 
  • +10 to +30 Science per territory influenced and under the entente.
  • -1% to -2% Population consumption on all of Empire A's cities (to represent migration from Empire B?)
  • Something else of course
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2 years ago
Jan 25, 2023, 3:51:31 PM

I havevn't been able to sign this deal with any of my allies, even when everything else is signed.


Are there any special requirements?

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