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Planes in aircraft carrier won't join battle in which the aircraft carrier takes part

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3 years ago
Aug 30, 2021, 3:10:30 PM
In my latest game, I had an aircraft carrier with 6 planes, 3 bombers and 3 monoplane fighters, this aircraft carrier was in a group with 7 more ships moving for an attack.
However, it happened that a nation which I had an "allowed skirmishes" decided to bring 16 ships to attack it, and I was, sure, let's fight then, my ships are more advanced and I have planes with which I can bomb your stuff, I should win, right? well, apparently wrong, because for as much as I tried, my planes couldn't do anything, rebase, bombard, nothing, because for the game the planes were stuck in battle, which, to me, seems kinda ridiculous, specially given that the aircraft carrier was in the battle itself, and you'd imagine that in any navy in the world, if the aircraft carrier came under attack it would launch its planes to defend itself. But apparently not in humankind, the planes just get stuck on the ship watching it die, they don't try to leave, they don't try to fight back, they just wait and watch what happens. In the end, I ended up losing the entire fleet AND all the aircraft.
Honestly, this seems like a huge game design flaw, how is it that an aircraft carrier with aircrafts on it can't defend itself with the aircrafts or try to save its aircraft by sending them away?
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3 years ago
Aug 30, 2021, 3:29:07 PM

I have had similar issues. If the carrier joins the battle it is like the aircrafts never existied. The carrier work as normal unit in the battle while the aircrafts disappears for the battle and only reappears once the battle is over. Not sure if the same happens with battles involving aerodromes as I have not yet had such battles.

Anyway it seems a bit strange that your aircrafts would not be able to do anything for possibly many turns and that can potentially be a huge disadvantage as you are fighting a battle without several of your aircrafts while the enemy, if they maneuvered a bit better so their carriers are not in the battle may still be able to use their own aircrafts.

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3 years ago
Aug 30, 2021, 3:31:36 PM

This sounds like a serious flaw, it could go to the Bug Reports section along with a save file, to help the Devs.

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3 years ago
Aug 30, 2021, 7:56:34 PM
Planes should be listed in "Support" units, right to the Reinforcements. Did you see them there? If not, then that's a bug. Even so, I am still figuring out how to use them, sometimes it works from within a battle, but sometimes I have to go outside and make an air-strike from the main map.
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3 years ago
Aug 30, 2021, 11:42:54 PM

I can confirm they sometimes are not listed, other times appear but "already performed an action this turn". Maybe the movement of the carrier also "moves" the planes and (even though they still have their turn) this somehow halts them from fighting?


The same problem occurs if a hangar is within the perimeter of a ground combat. The planes happily patrol above the battlefield but don't appear as support (even those that are not on patrol mode).

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2 years ago
May 15, 2023, 5:50:32 PM

This is happening in my games too, 2 years later. How I am supposed to use my planes in battle?

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2 years ago
May 15, 2023, 7:11:51 PM

Yeah, I experienced it too. It's quite frustrating when it happens. 

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2 years ago
May 16, 2023, 12:34:36 PM

For aerial units to engage in combat they need to be positioned out of the combat zone. If things stay that way then it should at least be possible to move the "locked" air forces to the "unlocked" airdrome, imo.

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2 years ago
May 25, 2023, 9:39:31 AM

I guess the reason they currently disallow deployment of airplanes is because it creates problems when a carrier with airplanes is destroyed durring battle. The planes would have to relocated to another airstrip/carrier or be destroyed. THis is isn't the only problem air units and I get the distinct impression that contemporary era was more of an after tought and they released it without completing the base feature set. Hopefully it is adresed it the Naval rework update they promised.

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2 years ago
May 25, 2023, 6:30:58 PM
FreeThinker wrote:

I guess the reason they currently disallow deployment of airplanes is because it creates problems when a carrier with airplanes is destroyed durring battle. The planes would have to relocated to another airstrip/carrier or be destroyed.

I think this too, but in that case, what problems could arise? Balance or on the engine? Because if the problem is "you lose all your planes when the carrier dies", then thats not much of a problem for me; but if it is something along the lines of "the game bugs out when a unit transporting other units is destroyed" that would be more understandable (but I would still ask for a fix if possible)


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