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DLC/Expansion Idea: Religious Cultures & Faith Stars

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3 years ago
Oct 1, 2021, 11:16:39 AM

IDK if I have played enough HUMANKIND yet to know but it seems that religion and faith is tangential to the game. 


While there are cultures that have Emblematic Districts that generate faith, you don't directly get any fame from them (unless they have other bonuses). It would be pretty easy to add a category of Faith or Religious era stars just like for merchant or aesthete stars. Just earn x amount of faith. Or perhaps stars earned from the number of followers (pop)?


That would allow a whole new slew of cultures to the game which would have a religious affinity.

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3 years ago
Oct 1, 2021, 2:00:22 PM

I think it would be better for It to stay somewhat Tangential, but there should be more you can do with Faith, besides just have Pressure.  You should accumulate Faith like Influence and the different Tenets/civics could open up things for you to spend it on. (ie spend it to help spread your faith, or spend it to get money/science/influence, or spend it to affect your opponents, etc.)

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3 years ago
Oct 1, 2021, 3:52:52 PM
I would be a bit miffed they introduced a core feature like religion into the game only to flesh it out as paid DLC. I would really prefer that they make any improvements to core systems a part of the base game.
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3 years ago
Oct 1, 2021, 4:27:38 PM
coolgrandma1962 wrote:
I would be a bit miffed they introduced a core feature like religion into the game only to flesh it out as paid DLC. I would really prefer that they make any improvements to core systems a part of the base game.

Any new religious cultures (units, EDs) would be new content. That's suited to DLC or expansion.


What's for certain is there definitely needs more to do with faith and religion in the game.

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3 years ago
Oct 1, 2021, 4:45:22 PM

I think it would be better to have faith ways to gain fame such as by converting empires. Faith just needs more things to do, I don't think era stars are too necesary.

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3 years ago
Oct 1, 2021, 9:00:58 PM

Is there any reason or advantage to change your religion when you choose your tenet? For example, Babylonian polytheism to christianity? Or it's purely cosmetic and roleplay decision?

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3 years ago
Oct 1, 2021, 9:07:03 PM

Some of the cultures I would love to see especially in the Contemporary era. 


1. United Arab Emirates. (Good modern representation from Arab world) /Merchants.

2. Pakistanis. good mix from southeast Asia that is definitely different from Indians. /Agrarian. It is always fun when you have rival counterparts existing aka Indians.

4. Israelis. very obvious and different from Arab world /Fame. 

5. Nigerians./Argrarian. I feel like Modern day Africa can be represented by them. 

6. North Koreans and Afghans would be awesome as well both are different from their regional cultures both can be militaristic cultures. 

7. Indonesians  /a very diverse culture. 


Will think of more from other eras.

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3 years ago
Oct 1, 2021, 9:11:16 PM
GediminasLM wrote:

Is there any reason or advantage to change your religion when you choose your tenet? For example, Babylonian polytheism to christianity? Or it's purely cosmetic and roleplay decision?

Not really.

It helps with diplomacy. Change to a religion of a player and you naturally generate less grievances. 


brubie wrote:

I think it would be better to have faith ways to gain fame such as by converting empires. Faith just needs more things to do.

Exactly, faith seems to be something you could almost ignore in HUMANKIND RN.


JNDTOOR wrote:

Some of the cultures I would love to see especially in the Contemporary era. 


1. United Arab Emirates. (Good modern representation from Arab world) /Merchants.

2. Pakistanis. good mix from southeast Asia that is definitely different from Indians. /Agrarian. It is always fun when you have rival counterparts existing aka Indians.

4. Israelis. very obvious and different from Arab world /Fame. 

7. Indonesians  /a very diverse culture. 

I think those are good candidates for religious cultures. Also:

Sri Lanka - Classical

Mughal - Early Modern(?) - to counter the Mauryans

Chola - Medieval - though maybe more militaristic(?) IDK.

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2 years ago
Oct 28, 2022, 5:10:45 PM

A total religious change will come in handy to make it a more "visible" or at least more immersive for both game mechanics and the roleplay/storytelling aspect of the game.

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2 years ago
Oct 30, 2022, 12:44:27 AM
I am from Panama, and technically my country were part of Gran Colombia so could be cool. Diegoyya wrote:

This is awesome. Can we get a gran colombia? 


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2 years ago
Oct 31, 2022, 6:48:03 PM
Jesus_G0J0 wrote:

A total religious change will come in handy to make it a more "visible" or at least more immersive for both game mechanics and the roleplay/storytelling aspect of the game.

I have heard through the grapevine that perhaps that is next on the cards for HUMANKIND. From @The-Cat-o-Nine-Tales over on Civfanatics:

https://forums.civfanatics.com/threads/together-we-rule-expansion.678833/#post-16329917

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2 years ago
Nov 1, 2022, 3:07:24 AM

For classical, the Kushan Empire!  A syncretic empire, formed by the Yuezhi, It spread to encompass much of modern-day territory of, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Uzbekistan, and northern India. The Kushans possibly used the Greek language initially for administrative purposes; had diplomatic contacts with the Roman Empire, Sasanian Persia, the Aksumite Empire and the Han dynasty of China; and were at the center of trade relations between the Roman Empire and China. 


So all this sounds like a mercantile empire, well hear this, the Kushans inherited the Greco-Buddhist traditions of the region and brought it to china through the silk road. THEY SPREAD BHUDDISM TO CHINA. They are the literal west that Journey to the West sought to find. This would be a civilization that focuses on syncretism and the role religion plays in commerce.

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2 years ago
Nov 1, 2022, 3:21:32 AM

For ancient era, might I recommend the megalith builders of Malta? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megalithic_Temples_of_Malta

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2 years ago
Nov 1, 2022, 3:25:46 PM
Ani_Taneen wrote:

For ancient era, might I recommend the megalith builders of Malta? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megalithic_Temples_of_Malta

Sounds great actually, for Industrial era i think the afghans (Durrani Empire) could work, centralized into a more "counter-foreign-religion" playstile on thier LT.


Now for E. Modern i just thought for the (kingdom of kongo) Kongolese where their LT may focus on reduction  of trade prices with  every correlgious empire or something like that.

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2 years ago
Nov 1, 2022, 4:43:30 PM
Ani_Taneen wrote:

For classical, the Kushan Empire!  A syncretic empire, formed by the Yuezhi, It spread to encompass much of modern-day territory of, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Uzbekistan, and northern India. The Kushans possibly used the Greek language initially for administrative purposes; had diplomatic contacts with the Roman Empire, Sasanian Persia, the Aksumite Empire and the Han dynasty of China; and were at the center of trade relations between the Roman Empire and China. 


So all this sounds like a mercantile empire, well hear this, the Kushans inherited the Greco-Buddhist traditions of the region and brought it to china through the silk road. THEY SPREAD BHUDDISM TO CHINA. They are the literal west that Journey to the West sought to find. This would be a civilization that focuses on syncretism and the role religion plays in commerce.

Very interesting.


Though for classical (or ancient at a stretch) I propose Sri Lanka.
I'm Sri Lankan origin and it is the oldest continuous culture in South Asia. All the others are gone, now replaced with post-colonial India, Pakistan, Bangladesh and Afghanistan. (TBH IDK enough about Bhutan and Nepal).


Sri Lanka would be a good counter to The Chola which without doubt should be in a cultures of South Asia DLC.

Sri Lanka survived The Chola and the subsequent Tamil kingdoms from south India.

In Civ VI Sri Lanka is represented as the religious CS Kandy (which is the colonial name BTW).
In Civ V it's Colombo (another British colonial city).


I challenge Amplitude to get it right!

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