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COMPLAINT - Renouncing Grievances still causes me nigh-apoplectic consternation.

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4 years ago
Jun 16, 2021, 2:46:39 PM

I know your staff has a penchant for somewhat obscure or less commonly used words and usually I appreciate it but this is still dumb. It's just one less thing I have to get confused about and ... either re-remember or look up. It's like every time the the diplomacy screen has a grievance and you can 'renounce' a grievance = which is described as withdrawing or forgiving in other screens.

Just change it to "Forgive" ... "Ignore" ... or ... "Withdraw." 

You are making the user have a worse experience.

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4 years ago
Jun 17, 2021, 6:58:54 AM

I've never felt this way about that situation and I like the wording the way it is personally. Renounce is not a particularly obscure word. 

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4 years ago
Jun 17, 2021, 7:34:06 AM

I felt the same when I ran into "coreligious." I did the highest secondary religious education my country could offer and never ran into this term lmao.


Renounce is fine for me but is definitely on the more complex side of words they could have used. The three you put forward would be much better suited.

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4 years ago
Jun 17, 2021, 7:45:10 AM

But this is a correct word. It's not simply forgetting about it, it's renouncing, publicly dropping the grievance so that your people don't hold the grudge and it can't be used as a reason for war, it makes the most sense in the context of how the whole system works (rising or defusing tensions between your people). I've seen quite a few of threads criticizing the wording pop up and I must say that I haven't agreed with single one of them.

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4 years ago
Jun 17, 2021, 8:03:45 AM
Socracle wrote:

I felt the same when I ran into "coreligious." I did the highest secondary religious education my country could offer and never ran into this term lmao.


Renounce is fine for me but is definitely on the more complex side of words they could have used. The three you put forward would be much better suited.

Right? Like I deduced the definition but still went to discord to check because I've got a minor in philosophy and had a penchant for religious debates which eventually mellowed into a more considered humanistic interest with a sort of anthropology subtext and I ain't sure I ever heard such a word in any conversation I've ever had.

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4 years ago
Jun 17, 2021, 8:10:33 AM
DNLH wrote:

But this is a correct word. It's not simply forgetting about it, it's renouncing, publicly dropping the grievance so that your people don't hold the grudge and it can't be used as a reason for war, it makes the most sense in the context of how the whole system works (rising or defusing tensions between your people). I've seen quite a few of threads criticizing the wording pop up and I must say that I haven't agreed with single one of them.

So what. I'm saying. I know what it means. I know how their using. And yet... I still hesitate to click the renounce button. 

https://writingexplained.org/renounce-vs-denounce-difference

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4 years ago
Jun 17, 2021, 10:04:44 AM
PotatoesAreBland wrote:

Just change it to "Forgive" ... "Ignore" ... or ... "Withdraw."

But none of these has the exact same meaning as "renounce".


And in a broader topic, I like when a game improves my vocabulary. As a child, I learned a lot playing strategic games Haha.

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4 years ago
Jun 17, 2021, 2:50:43 PM

God, I should have taken a picture of it. The description for the tier 4 religious tenet that doubles the rate in which your religion spreads needs to be reread 3-4 times to properly understand it, I actually laughed when I saw it.

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