Enchanteur wrote:

I can't believe it, finaly I found many way to make the ideas I told here before.

https://humankind.mod.io/BuyThis

In this mod, there is the "quarters need population" many people was talking about here.

After some tests, I set the optimal value to 3 pop each 2 quarters.

The game mechanics of the mod change a lot how you develop the cities. 

Asap you get the buy by pop, you can make crazy things.

If you are agrarian culture, you can combo with this.

A bit later, money culture is crazy good.

It's the end of industry monopoly!!!

Only thing I couldn't do is an upkeep cost for infrastructure.

But anyway, it maybe don't really need it.

I also gave up on the idea to put an influence cost on quarters. The exploitation by pop is enough.

Noice maybe you could segments those changes into modules mods if I want a certain thing but not the other , otherwise nice mod !

Arphenix wrote:

Enchanteur wrote:

I can't believe it, finaly I found many way to make the ideas I told here before.

https://humankind.mod.io/BuyThis

In this mod, there is the "quarters need population" many people was talking about here.

After some tests, I set the optimal value to 3 pop each 2 quarters.

The game mechanics of the mod change a lot how you develop the cities. 

Asap you get the buy by pop, you can make crazy things.

If you are agrarian culture, you can combo with this.

A bit later, money culture is crazy good.

It's the end of industry monopoly!!!

Only thing I couldn't do is an upkeep cost for infrastructure.

But anyway, it maybe don't really need it.

I also gave up on the idea to put an influence cost on quarters. The exploitation by pop is enough.

Noice maybe you could segments those changes into modules mods if I want a certain thing but not the other , otherwise nice mod !

You are right. I already get a comment of a player who like some features but not the whole.

I will work on this, but not today. I'm too tired.

For now, I think about the fact that it's painfull to use mods, because they have to be loaded each game.

So it's better to put all in one mod.

I saw some nice mods. Someone created a whole new culture, with emblematic quarter and unit. 

Woo! I don't know how to do that. Actualy I only know to tweak value, not add new content.

lex-kravetski wrote:

In its current state it somehow breaks game engine for me. Even if the mod is just in the mod list and not applied, going to "mods" and selecting any mod with "apply" button hides game load dialog (it is not visible, but makes some sounds when mouse is moved) and "exit game" button. New games don't start too. If I unsubscribe from the mod, everything works as it should. I don't know what happens, but something does.

I did many tests without this problem. I check again right now.

I get all normaly.

Here I load 2 mods :

Then I go to load a game :

On the bottom right, it even say there is 2 mods loaded.

Also, this mod just tweak values, don't add anything and don't change menus. I don't know what could cause your issue.

There is menu item "load", but when I click on it, no dialog appears.

lex-kravetski wrote:

There is menu item "load", but when I click on it, no dialog appears.

You are unlucky. I can't know what happen on your side.

I'm playing a full game with the mod. I check if I can load a save, and I get this :

In french "charger" mean Load. I can see my previous saves.

When loading a save, I'm not sure, but maybe because the mod tool is beta, it need to load the mod again before. 

Someone else could confirm, I just remember that but it's blurred in my mind.

It seems like your mod has broken localization. It (and only it) doesn't work on English and Russian on my computer, no matter
how I try to resubscribe and clear mod caches, but, as you say, it works on French on your computer. You should see my "Diagnostics.html", in which there are many localization exceptions, and they, probably, corrupt the app's memory. And you should try to run the game with the English localization.

Diagnostics (2021'11'08 @2233'13''396''').html

So many localization exceptions. I will start the game in english next time.

But there is an issue I can't know if I can solve, or it's because the tool are in beta mod.

It shouldn't do that with parameters the game already know.

Hello,

I like that this mod and want to use it. Just like lex-kravetski said, this mod breaks the game. It loads fine, but when I go to start a new game, I can't change map settings and even start a game. In map settings for example, none of the drop down menus work (I did check to see if it was only map menus, but none of the drop down menus work.) Without the mod, everything works as intended. I tried your other mod, the noexpontentialdistrictcost, that one to also does what BuyThis! does with the game. These are the only mods I downloaded or used. I doubt what I said is helpful, but maybe it is, I don't mod nor even know how to. 

Like I said, I really like what this mod does and hope to try it out. 

Cheers

MagoDeOz wrote:

Hello,

I like that this mod and want to use it. Just like lex-kravetski said, this mod breaks the game. It loads fine, but when I go to start a new game, I can't change map settings and even start a game. In map settings for example, none of the drop down menus work (I did check to see if it was only map menus, but none of the drop down menus work.) Without the mod, everything works as intended. I tried your other mod, the noexpontentialdistrictcost, that one to also does what BuyThis! does with the game. These are the only mods I downloaded or used. I doubt what I said is helpful, but maybe it is, I don't mod nor even know how to. 

Like I said, I really like what this mod does and hope to try it out. 

Cheers

Yes it's helpfull. There is an issue from the mod tool here, because I don't set new names in the mod, so localization should work as it's just the standard localization of the game.

kravetsky diagnostic file help a lot too, we see it's just standard game names.

I will try to set the game tool in english as well as the game and try to export the mod again.

 I hope it solve the issue and I don't have to rebuild the mod from A to Z because the import function of the mod tool don't check localization and only take the active one.

Hello! 

Thanks for your mod @Enchanter !

We indeed have a known issue about Mods that could break the UI and it should be cause by an high amount of text present in some fileds in the Mod Tool.

As a workaround you can modify the text in the Configuration tab only (so your whole Mod description will be kept in the Export tab in mod.io):

- Remove the text in Description and Release Notes fields (or make it very short like a sentence)

- Make sure the text is also short in the Author and Homepage fields.

Again make sure to keep everything as it is in the Export tab in Summary and Description fields as those ones will be correctly displayed in mod.io.

Don't hesitate to contact me if you have any question if I haven't been clear enough!

Tyor wrote:

Hello! 

Thanks for your mod @Enchanter !

We indeed have a known issue about Mods that could break the UI and it should be cause by an high amount of text present in some fileds in the Mod Tool.

As a workaround you can modify the text in the Configuration tab only (so your whole Mod description will be kept in the Export tab in mod.io):

- Remove the text in Description and Release Notes fields (or make it very short like a sentence)

- Make sure the text is also short in the Author and Homepage fields.

Again make sure to keep everything as it is in the Export tab in Summary and Description fields as those ones will be correctly displayed in mod.io.

Don't hesitate to contact me if you have any question if I haven't been clear enough!

Woo, thank for this quick answer.

And if it's just that, you save my day. Easy to solve. Thanks !!!

Spread the info, anyone writing too much in the mod-tool will get the problem.

Tyor wrote:

Hello! 

Thanks for your mod @Enchanter !

We indeed have a known issue about Mods that could break the UI and it should be cause by an high amount of text present in some fileds in the Mod Tool.

As a workaround you can modify the text in the Configuration tab only (so your whole Mod description will be kept in the Export tab in mod.io):

- Remove the text in Description and Release Notes fields (or make it very short like a sentence)

- Make sure the text is also short in the Author and Homepage fields.

Again make sure to keep everything as it is in the Export tab in Summary and Description fields as those ones will be correctly displayed in mod.io.

I did that :

and that :

Let's see if it work ok now.

Tyor wrote:
Hello,

I've just downloaded your update, no more issue so it should be good now :)

Thanks for the quick fix on your side, the issue will be added to the mods known issue list !

Thanks for the test, it help. As players will take time to get the info. 

Now I'm sure they don't have any problem.

I wrote in the description the issue was coming from too much text in description tab. 

So it can help someone else with same problem and spread the info.

MagoDeOz wrote:

Hello,

Thanks to dev team, it should be solved now! Check the thread.

lex-kravetski wrote:

Yes, for me, new game dropdown lists don't work too.

Hey hey, it was coming from too much text in description of configuration tab.

This text go after in the game UI. And the game UI isn't a webpage where you can write war & peace. ;-)

Solved now.

Hello,

Thanks Enchanteur for the quick fix. I would also include for that UI fix, that unsubscribe and subscribing worked after your update. I let it update (both mods for future reference) and then tried to use them. Same UI problem. Did the un/re subscribe and it worked fine (I realized now that in my first post I should have told you I also did the un/re subscribe before the update.) 

Anyway, thanks for the quick reply and thank you for making this mod.
Cheers.

MagoDeOz wrote:

Hello,

Thanks Enchanteur for the quick fix. I would also include for that UI fix, that unsubscribe and subscribing worked after your update. I let it update (both mods for future reference) and then tried to use them. Same UI problem. Did the un/re subscribe and it worked fine (I realized now that in my first post I should have told you I also did the un/re subscribe before the update.) 

Anyway, thanks for the quick reply and thank you for making this mod.
Cheers.

Woo, thank you. I edited the webpage to indicate this!

Tyor wrote:

Hello! 

Thanks for your mod @Enchanter !

We indeed have a known issue about Mods that could break the UI and it should be cause by an high amount of text present in some fileds in the Mod Tool.

As a workaround you can modify the text in the Configuration tab only (so your whole Mod description will be kept in the Export tab in mod.io):

- Remove the text in Description and Release Notes fields (or make it very short like a sentence)

- Make sure the text is also short in the Author and Homepage fields.

Again make sure to keep everything as it is in the Export tab in Summary and Description fields as those ones will be correctly displayed in mod.io.

Don't hesitate to contact me if you have any question if I haven't been clear enough!

Hello could you post a guide about known bugs for mods tools idk if this already exist but had this idea

Arphenix wrote:

Hello could you post a guide about known bugs for mods tools idk if this already exist but had this idea

Sometimes, when testing : If I go the menu, load the mod then create a new game, I have a UI bug in the city developement.

It write "Missing UI mapper" in red. But it don't create more problems than that.

It happens only when I'm already in the game. If I close the game, start again and load the mod, it's ok.

Enchanteur wrote:
Hey hey, it was coming from too much text in description of configuration tab.

Now it is working.

Hi... I updated the mod. A really big update. Incorporating 4 or 5 others of my mods, and affine formulas.

Since then, I understood so many things, so I did complex calculation on excel sheets, etc.

All this with in my mind a goal, a gameplay style I wanted to make it live.

And now... it live !!!!! Crazy gameplay ! Also more balanced than before.

More balanced, but without nerfing buyouts !! Many playtests games.

Now, I will just play it more, and see how it feel, what happens during late game, etc.