[KI] Bombard units in a battle cannot attack units in destroyed fortifications

Trekkie2114

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3 years ago

Feb 26, 2022, 7:25:49 PM

When battling with units in fortifications, bombard units and certain other ranged units cannot attack units once the fortifications are destroyed. A message comes up saying target already destroyed. In some circumstances this is OK, but can be devastating when trying to complete an amphibious assault, as my battleships (and ironclads) couldnt kill units on the beachhead so none of my units could land.

This was also quiet annoying on a battle with a narrow (1tile) battle width and most of my artillary couldn't fire as enemy units were standing on destroyed fortifications. Please can this be fixed

Thank you

Updated 2 years ago.

DEVTyor

Dev Team

DEVTyor

Dev Team

22 100g2g pts

3 years ago

Feb 28, 2022, 1:34:05 PM

Hello!

In order for us to fully investigate this issue we need the following:

- Your last two auto-saves, and any other saves you think may help show the problem. Your saves are by default located:

o PC: \Users\[username]\Documents\Humankind\Save Files

o Mac: This is hidden in the Libraries folder. You will need to do an internet search to find specific steps for your OS. Once the libraries folder is revealed, they are in /library/ application support/humankind/Save Files

- A screenshot. To get a screenshot:

o PC:

§ Steam: Default hotkey for a screenshot is F12

§ EGS: Use the windows print screen button, or press start and type in snipping tool/Snip and Sketch and create a new snip of the area you want to make a screenshot of.

o Mac: Steam default hotkey for a screenshot is F12, but if that does not work press and hold these three keys together: Shift, Command, and 3. o Stadia: https://support.google.com/stadia/answer/9582306?hl=en (There are many options)

Thank you for taking the time to send us this report.

Trekkie2114

Newcomer

Trekkie2114

Newcomer

3 years ago

Mar 24, 2022, 9:50:20 PM

Updated 3 years ago.

Trekkie2114

Newcomer

Trekkie2114

Newcomer

Save Game for Devs.ctr auto-save 6.ctr auto-save 7.ctr

3 years ago

Mar 24, 2022, 9:51:47 PM

In the save "save game for Devs" there is a battle taking place where some dragoons are standing in destroyed fortifications. My mortars cannot shoot at it

Updated 3 years ago.

Trekkie2114

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Trekkie2114

Newcomer

2 years ago

Jun 23, 2022, 9:44:57 PM

Tyor wrote:
Hello!
In order for us to fully investigate this issue we need the following:
- Your last two auto-saves, and any other saves you think may help show the problem. Your saves are by default located:
o PC: \Users\[username]\Documents\Humankind\Save Files
o Mac: This is hidden in the Libraries folder. You will need to do an internet search to find specific steps for your OS. Once the libraries folder is revealed, they are in /library/ application support/humankind/Save Files

- A screenshot. To get a screenshot:
o PC:
§ Steam: Default hotkey for a screenshot is F12
§ EGS: Use the windows print screen button, or press start and type in snipping tool/Snip and Sketch and create a new snip of the area you want to make a screenshot of.
o Mac: Steam default hotkey for a screenshot is F12, but if that does not work press and hold these three keys together: Shift, Command, and 3. o Stadia: https://support.google.com/stadia/answer/9582306?hl=en (There are many options)

Thank you for taking the time to send us this report.

Hi

it was disappointing to see this bug still in the game after the last big update. is this being looked into?

CoconutTank

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beanz

ballista_cant_hit_on_destroyed_fort.ctr

CoconutTank

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13 300g2g pts

2 years ago

Jun 26, 2022, 5:34:08 PM

I find it kind of weird that this bug did not get fixed. I know I've heard folks in other places talking about HK have also encountered this bug often enough before the patch.

Anyway, please see the following pictures:

1. Here is a reading of a Ballista that is able to hit a Ta-Seti Archer in a fortification. Coincidentally, the Ballista completely destroys the fortification at the same time, and also inflicts some damage on the Ta-Seti Archer.

2. Here is another Ballista trying to attack the same Ta-Seti Archer, after the earlier Ballista has committed its attack. Note that it is unable to attack the Ta-Seti Archer due to a "Target is already destroyed" message.

3. To demonstrate that the Ta-Seti Archer is still present, here is a reading of an Archer being able to attack the Ta-Seti Archer.

Ballistae are not the only siege units to demonstrate this inability to attack enemy units on destroyed fortifications, in my experience. The following are also unable to attack enemy units on destroyed fortifications:

- Battering Rams (this might be on purpose?)

- Trebuchets

- Mortars

- Siege Artillery

- Helicopter Gunships

I've also attached a copy of the save file to this post. It was in a session that was played today on 2022-06-26 at around 10:32 AM Pacific Time, and started the night before at around 11 PM Pacific Time, so it should definitely be using the most recent version of Humankind. The battle where those above pictures are taken can be found in the only visible orange city on the map.

EDIT: Also want to add that this session is not using any custom mods, only mods (free or paid) provided by Amplitude.

Updated 2 years ago.

neprostoman

Giant Drill

you know what i'm sayin

neprostoman

Giant Drill

25 100g2g pts

2 years ago

Jun 26, 2022, 6:09:43 PM

This bug definitely needs more attention from the team. Upvoted.

Sir_Bertran

Enthusiast in Disguise

Meh

Sir_Bertran

Enthusiast in Disguise

8 400g2g pts

2 years ago

Jun 28, 2022, 1:30:57 AM

Upvoted.

Arphenix

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JOJO

Arphenix

Precursor Ancestor

5 700g2g pts

2 years ago

Jun 28, 2022, 4:57:43 AM

Upvoted

PaladinLeeroy

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PaladinLeeroy

Hunchback in Disguise

4 900g2g pts

2 years ago

Jun 29, 2022, 3:51:02 AM

Just ran into the same bug in my own game.

CoconutTank

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beanz

CoconutTank

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13 300g2g pts

2 years ago

Jul 13, 2022, 5:12:33 PM

Ey, some good news! It looks like (at least for Ballistae) this bug is fixed in the Ibn Battuta beta!

I'll have to try with Trebs and Mortars and Helis eventually, but this looks promising.

Updated 2 years ago.

DNLH

Wannabe Amoeba

That would be cool, right?

DNLH

Wannabe Amoeba

32 400g2g pts

2 years ago

Jul 13, 2022, 6:52:14 PM

That was mentioned among the listed fixes, I do wonder if that also includes Shatter units and ships, because the fixes list does mention only Bombard.

CoconutTank

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beanz

CoconutTank

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13 300g2g pts

2 years ago

Jul 14, 2022, 10:03:46 PM

DNLH wrote:
That was mentioned among the listed fixes, I do wonder if that also includes Shatter units and ships, because the fixes list does mention only Bombard.

Can at least confirm that Helis are also fixed in this beta:

I think I'm just going to build Helis forever :V they're so much fun, and so much more usable fighters/bombers.

On a separate note (perhaps this should be in another thread), but it looks like Helis can't fly over walls? At the least, I have to blow open an opening in a wall before I can explicitly move Helis into an unoccupied tile behind a wall. I'm not sure if that's a bug, or if that's intended, since Helis are sort of weird land units.