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[PC/Steam, V1.0.17.3494] Can no longer interact with independent peoples

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2 years ago
Nov 10, 2022, 10:02:47 AM

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While playing last night, I noticed that I could no longer interact with independent peoples. It worked very well when I started my game. I'm not sure, but I believe the bug manifested after I attacked units from independent peoples that I had treaties with.
I attacked said units, because I wanted to link one of my outposts to one of my cities. But according to the game, it was impossible because hostile units prevented it. They were units of the Hurrians, they were the only ones present on the territory. I had treaties with them, but at that time they were still defiance. I attacked them, to clear the way and connect my outpost. But when, several turns later, the game informs me that I can sign a new treaty with them, the options were now grayed out (see Screenshot below).

 
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En jouant hier soir, j'ai remarqué que je ne pouvais plus interagir avec les peuples indépendants. Cela fonctionné très bien quand j'ai débuté ma partie. Je n'en suis pas sûr, mais je crois que le bug c'est manifesté après que j'ai attaqué des unités des peuples indépendants avec lesquels j'avais des traités.

J'ai attaqué lesdites unités, car je voulais lier un de mes avant-poste à une de mes villes. Mais d'après le jeu, c'était impossible car des unités hostiles l'empêchaient. C'était des unités des Hourrites, c'étaient les seules présentes sur le territoire. J'avais des traités avec eux, mais à ce moment-là, ils étaient quand même défiant vis-à-vis de moi. Je les ai attaqués, pour faire place nette et relier mon avant-poste. Mais quand, plusieurs tours plus tard, le jeu m'informe que je peux signer un nouveau traité avec eux, les options étaient désormais grisés (cf. Screenshot ci-dessous).

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2 years ago
Nov 10, 2022, 10:07:52 AM

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I realize that the code that appears in yellow on the screenshots is not very visible. It is written :

%FailureFlagsMinorEmpireNotValidState


The bug affects all independent peoples, not just the Hurrians.


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Je me rends compte que le code qui apparaît en jaune sur les screenshots n'est pas très visible. Il est écrit :

%FailureFlagsMinorEmpireNotValidState


Le bug touche tous les peuples indépendants, pas seulement les Hourrites.

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2 years ago
Nov 10, 2022, 10:35:16 AM

I had the same issue, but I think it's easily explainable. If the independent people is 'in decline' they can't be interacted with anymore. That was the case for every independent people I had the message with, so I think it's more an issue of the message not being displayed properly, but the mechanic works as intended. That's my guess anyway!

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2 years ago
Nov 10, 2022, 10:45:08 AM

Ah ? It's maybe the reason yes. It's not very visible on the screenshot, but you can see, next to the name of the independant people, a clock with a number. For the Hurrians, it's 0.6. That's maybe the countdown before they dissapear.

You had a clock with a number on your game, Arachnodork ?

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2 years ago
Nov 10, 2022, 11:04:02 AM

Hello,

Thank you for your time sending us your report.

For further investigation we'll need the following:

- A save file at least two turns before the issue occurs;
- Video capturing the issue.

Thank you!

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2 years ago
Nov 10, 2022, 11:44:13 AM

Thanks for your reply, PandaSpandex. I Think Arachnodork is right. The issue is probably the fact that the message is not displayed properly. In any case, you will find attached a copy of my save, 2 turns before the Hurrians enter the "In decline" state.

I have tried to record a video with Windows Game Bar, but the file is to big. I don't know how to send it to you...

Raser Assur.ctr

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2 years ago
Nov 11, 2022, 3:07:35 PM

Hello again!

Yes, this is correct. When you attack the IPs army, the Treaty tab gets locked and you can no longer interact with them.
When the lifespan of the IPs falls below 3 turns, the tab of the Treaties gets locked as well.

Regards

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2 years ago
Nov 11, 2022, 4:40:05 PM
PandaSpandex wrote:
When you attack the IPs army, the Treaty tab gets locked and you can no longer interact with them

Whoa, never again?  I understand them turtling up and not trusting you anymore if you've attacked them, but maybe you can buy your way into their good graces again.


Proposal: If you've attacked an IP and they won't talk with you anymore, replace the "Introduce Yourself" initial treaty with a "Reopen Negotiations" treaty that costs 2-3x the influence... and maybe money too.

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2 years ago
Nov 14, 2022, 2:38:17 PM

Hello again!

The issue with the interaction is now being working on.

Regarding to your proposal - it has been raised.

Thank you for your suggestions!

Regards

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