EsoulBoy wrote:

Demilitarisation affinity gives only leverage from enemy units, but don’t applies “trespassing” status.

(I was at war with AI and dmz didn’t take hp from his unit, also there wasn’t trespassing icon, not sure if have saved that moment, just recently remembered that I surprised when I kept enemy unit in dmz for several turns to gain leverage, and he didn’t lose hp).
Is it a bug or it was changed? And if it was changed then for what reason, it seems it is much weaker now

Thats strange, I am going to move the thread to bug report, so we can take a look at it. But for that we will need from your side if you can share sae + diagnostic files (feel free to include screenshots as well).

Here the save file, it is from the same game session I have faced that bug.

Unfortunatly, I have apllied it on claimed by pink(germans) territory, but I faced it in classical era when i applied it at my claimed territory ( I was at war but I dont remember if I have attached it)

demilitarization bug.ctr

EsoulBoy wrote:
Actually, it is the buggiest session in humankind I have ever played))))

Agree. I hope devs will do a massive update aimed to fix most bugs than to introduce an ambitious culture pack/something similar. The majority of them (altough some became less frequent) have been known since the launch or almost.

Seems like not only me don’t have trespassing status, as the OP didn’t mentioned health damage: https://www.games2gether.com/amplitude-studios/humankind/forums/168-general/threads/51401-demilitarized-zone#post-366539

So, seems unit still don’t lose their health in dmz. Any news is it a bug or was it removed from the game  recently? 

EsoulBoy wrote:

Yeah, that why  I was asking: as TWR came out I used DMZ during a war with AI and I  remember that it put trespassing status on enemy units, so I had advantage in that region and that was amazing for tactics. But during last game I couldn’t trigger trespassing status at all: not during war, nor at peaceful times. So now I don’t understand when it is applied (

Would you mind to share with us save + diagnostic files?

EsoulBoy wrote:

Here the save file, it is from the same game session I have faced that bug.

Unfortunatly, I have apllied it on claimed by pink(germans) territory, but I faced it in classical era when i applied it at my claimed territory ( I was at war but I dont remember if I have attached it)

demilitarization bug.ctr

As for game when dmz dealt damage during the war, unfortunately, that game was on TWR release, so I don’t have that safe file. But here the safe file for the game when trespassing status is not applied. But maybe there are really some rules when it shouldn’t be applied, and all works properly, I don’t know((

glenjen75 wrote:

Here is an example of what I think EsoulBoy was talking about, with save game files & diagnostics attached.

Was playing my latest game [PC/Steam V1.0.21.3740-510 (64-bit Standalone, build:284208)]

and started as Sumeria. Not currently at war with anyone. Green player (Phonecians, no treaties) sent an army of 4 into my outpost'd territory of Nenque 

I applied DMZ to the territory. This seemed to trigger the leverage drop (possibly coincidence?) seen in pic and applied the DMZ flag to Green's army. There was no trespass grievance on the diplomacy screen - which I was expecting because of the leverage drop, but on the other hand I had read that the trespass wasn't actually applied until the next turn. Saved game as [trespass1]. Advanced turn.

Green moved their army further into my territory. This is when pic below was taken. Still no trespass flag applied to Green's units. Saved game as [trespass2]. Advanced turn.

Still no trespass flag, no unit health damage to Green's army. Pink player (Harappans, no open border treaty) actually entered with an army of 4. No leverage drop, no grievance trigger. DMZ flag applied to Pink's army.

I think the natural inclination is to assume that these armies *should* be marked as trespassing. The in-game tooltip (see pic) certainly makes it sound like they should.

TRESPASS2.ctr

Trespass1.ctr  

auto-save 20093.ctr

auto-save 20094.ctr

TrespassDiagnostics.zip

Thank you, glenjen, it is truly what I was speaking about: the trespassing status is not applied, while it looks like it should be applied, as those units are seem to be not “authorised”. The same thing during the war. Btw on TWR beta or release it was applied even during the war, and there were always two icons of leverage drop and tresspassing.

Hello!

Sorry for the late answer but the issue you've spotted is indeed a bug, the units present in a territory that has an outpost and a Demilitarized Zone should have the trespassing status. An issue has been added on our side and has been brought up to the attention of the team!

Sorry for the inconvenience and thank you very much for taking the time to send us this bug report!

Thank you (and the rest of the dev team) for your continued work on improving the game!

In the current beta release, this now seems to be working.

Seems this bug appeared again… At least I don’t see the treaspassing icon