UndeadPuppy wrote:

AkatsukiLeader13 wrote:

Nyutek wrote:

Love this Race ! Maybe I could play them , I like their gameplay and their style

But something frightens me inside my fan soul . In the Academy, they say Varb St Zouieina was a member of the Zolya Clan . A member of the Vaulters clan ! That would mean the vaulter encounter the Vodyani and lose against them ?! That could mean they're no Vaulters

Or that could mean they can be got some rivalry against some Faction (if Vaulter still exist) Like for example Vaulters don't like AT ALL the Vodyani.

That could be interesting , need to know more  !

I doubt it means there are no Vaulters.  Rather it sounds like the Vodyani attacked a Vaulter colony.  All it sounds like is an attack on a minor settlement, not a part of some grand war between the two.  Remember the Vodyani are basically consciousnesses encased in shells.  That doesn't mean all of them started out as the same race.

I further doubt that we would have a situation where one faction would have a trait that would set it against another.

What about Saints? From what I understand some Vodyani merge/get taken over/share a suit with a Virtual Endless or some remnant of them.

I'm surprised none of them actually stepped forward and said: "Okay guys, maybe you're going a little overboard with the whole ascension thing. We weren't really gods..."

At the moment we don't know if that extends to all the Vodyani or a minority of them?  Given comments in the Vodyani Hero Bios, I suspect its the latter.

Also you're assuming that Virtual they've encountered are of the same mind on that, have their minds intact and relatively sane.  Given the infamous history of the Endless I highly doubt that.

wintermute213 wrote:

Yeah, these guys are shaping up to be hands-down the most interesting faction in the game.  I'm really starting to worry about the others, hopefully the Vodyani didn't drain all the ideas from the team.

Don't worry, we locked SlowHands in a sensory-deprivation tank for a week and when he came out he had plenty more crazy brilliant ideas. He was a bit peckish too.

Any idea when the hero portraits on the wiki will get animated?

StoryEngine wrote:

wintermute213 wrote:

Yeah, these guys are shaping up to be hands-down the most interesting faction in the game.  I'm really starting to worry about the others, hopefully the Vodyani didn't drain all the ideas from the team.

Don't worry, we locked SlowHands in a sensory-deprivation tank for a week and when he came out he had plenty more crazy brilliant ideas. He was a bit peckish too.

I have to confess that most of the really good ideas involved intricately plotted plans for revenge on my co-workers...

They have a single colony maybe they can only own one like the cultist or they leave it after a quest? since IIRC lorewise in ES2 every race is starting their space age well thats the vibe i got from the lumeris. 

The Vodyani create colonies like every other race (that we know of). The difference is that the population, and probably food production, is kept planetside. Whereas the industry and science production and dust output (aka the entire Vodyani industrial and economic base) is kept on their motherships.

Nyutek wrote:

Love this Race ! Maybe I could play them , I like their gameplay and their style

But something frightens me inside my fan soul . In the Academy, they say Varb St Zouieina was a member of the Zolya Clan . A member of the Vaulters clan ! That would mean the vaulter encounter the Vodyani and lose against them ?! That could mean they're no Vaulters

Or that could mean they can be got some rivalry against some Faction (if Vaulter still exist) Like for example Vaulters don't like AT ALL the Vodyani.

That could be interesting , need to know more  !

I doubt it means there are no Vaulters.  Rather it sounds like the Vodyani attacked a Vaulter colony.  All it sounds like is an attack on a minor settlement, not a part of some grand war between the two.  Remember the Vodyani are basically consciousnesses encased in shells.  That doesn't mean all of them started out as the same race.

I further doubt that we would have a situation where one faction would have a trait that would set it against another.

AkatsukiLeader13 wrote:

Nyutek wrote:

Love this Race ! Maybe I could play them , I like their gameplay and their style

But something frightens me inside my fan soul . In the Academy, they say Varb St Zouieina was a member of the Zolya Clan . A member of the Vaulters clan ! That would mean the vaulter encounter the Vodyani and lose against them ?! That could mean they're no Vaulters

Or that could mean they can be got some rivalry against some Faction (if Vaulter still exist) Like for example Vaulters don't like AT ALL the Vodyani.

That could be interesting , need to know more  !

I doubt it means there are no Vaulters.  Rather it sounds like the Vodyani attacked a Vaulter colony.  All it sounds like is an attack on a minor settlement, not a part of some grand war between the two.  Remember the Vodyani are basically consciousnesses encased in shells.  That doesn't mean all of them started out as the same race.

I further doubt that we would have a situation where one faction would have a trait that would set it against another.

What about Saints? From what I understand some Vodyani merge/get taken over/share a suit with a Virtual Endless or some remnant of them.

I'm surprised none of them actually stepped forward and said: "Okay guys, maybe you're going a little overboard with the whole ascension thing. We weren't really gods..."

Neurolancer wrote:

I am looking forward to EA to test out the assimilation mechanics. I wonder if the assimilation would work differently depending on which type of population they are assimilating. Can they assimilate Cravers or another mechanized faction such as the Epistis? Either way I can't wait!!!

EDIT: I am also very intrigued by the "heretic prophet" story in their introduction. I am guessing this will add some spice to their faction quest story. Maybe we will get some virtual endless lore as a part of the faction quest.

Technically yeah, because their ascension is basically becoming a Virtual, which is shedding your boddy and uploading your consciousness to whatever network/suits the Vodyani have. I can imagine it is even easier for Robotic races to do it.  

UndeadPuppy wrote:

AkatsukiLeader13 wrote:

Nyutek wrote:

Love this Race ! Maybe I could play them , I like their gameplay and their style

But something frightens me inside my fan soul . In the Academy, they say Varb St Zouieina was a member of the Zolya Clan . A member of the Vaulters clan ! That would mean the vaulter encounter the Vodyani and lose against them ?! That could mean they're no Vaulters

Or that could mean they can be got some rivalry against some Faction (if Vaulter still exist) Like for example Vaulters don't like AT ALL the Vodyani.

That could be interesting , need to know more  !

I doubt it means there are no Vaulters.  Rather it sounds like the Vodyani attacked a Vaulter colony.  All it sounds like is an attack on a minor settlement, not a part of some grand war between the two.  Remember the Vodyani are basically consciousnesses encased in shells.  That doesn't mean all of them started out as the same race.

I further doubt that we would have a situation where one faction would have a trait that would set it against another.

What about Saints? From what I understand some Vodyani merge/get taken over/share a suit with a Virtual Endless or some remnant of them.

I'm surprised none of them actually stepped forward and said: "Okay guys, maybe you're going a little overboard with the whole ascension thing. We weren't really gods..."

I can offer a few answers to that question actually...

1. The encountered Virtuals have been in isolation for millenia and have gone insane. However this is highly improbably, as any kind of uploaded lifeform would be able to both speed up and slow down percieved time. They could basically make thousands of years last a couple seconds. Their memries could also be heavily fragmented, leaving them unable to function and effectively making the Virtual and Vidyani the same being with the Vodyani's purpose being the dominant one.
2. Some have and some haven't. Based on the Vaulter/maybe Vaulter turned Vodyani, at least some of the Virtuals have shared their memories with the Vodyani. Of course it is also possible that these Virtuals want to be percieved as Gods, which leads into the next answer...
3. God-like tendencies. The remaining Virtuals may actually believe themselves to be what amounts to deities, or are playing the part in order to hunt down the remaining Concrete Endless (which do indeed exist).
4. Remember the Vodyani don't believe the Vituals to be Gods. They believe the Virtuals chose them over other races to save, and left them the means for their own ascension into percieved Godhood.

Basically what I'm getting at above is the fact that I'd like to see if I can make a custom faction using the vodyani as the custom base, and I don't like having nonremovable affinity presets. At all.

I think we will have a choice of ,,base'' (affinity, names, special technologies) and appearance, like in ES1. At least, I hope so.

@Mithrill- I pray that is the case

BlackBird1696 wrote:

The Vodyani create colonies like every other race (that we know of). The difference is that the population, and probably food production, is kept planetside. Whereas the industry and science production and dust output (aka the entire Vodyani industrial and economic base) is kept on their motherships.

It basically sounds like they can transfer their infrastructure from world to world, but only some population.

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GotEmCoooach wrote:

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While I think I understand your meaning, it would be in your best interest to better articulate it to us.

@blackbird- I second that motion.